sorry GD that you missed the ONE place WT used the term VERY VERY SOON! to descpribe THE END....my wt conductor dad actually called me and pointed it out and said he researched it and it was the first time they and EVER used it...im guessing 10 years ago or so..it could be 20 as those memories blur together like thousands of nightmares rolled into one............oompa
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25The Jehovah's Witness Definition of the Word "Soon"
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and gals!.
forget the word "generation", the watchtower society has completely spun another word - "soon".. how many times did you (do you) hear jehovah's witnesses tell each other "the end is coming soon"?.
i talk about this word spin in our latest article - the jehovah's witness definition of "soon" - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jehovahs-witness-beliefs/jehovahs-witness-definition-of-soon/.
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"please sign in" was all mom said to me and my boys at her sisters funeral yesterday at the kindom hall
by oompa inmy dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.
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so i just spent two hours making a reply...it got so long because of a letter i wrote my dad...i divded them into two posts...then with an accidental key stroke i lost them both....then i wrote another few paragraphs here like this one to explain....and ditto it happened AGAIN!....but it was all good therapy!!! losing them was probably holy spirit....
thanks for your kind words all and nope i didn't need any pity party...gone are those days.. Tthe whole thing was healing....WE AND THE FEW NON JW FAMILY THERE WERE THE NORMAL ONES!!!! laughing and getting caught up for the first time in over ten years...nothing moved me emotionally downward....except that the few people that showed up were mostly fossils...
and omg they picked some new song to sing that was a faint drooling mumble by the old faithful...it was torture as were the few words i accidently the antique speaker i accidently heard as i was taking care of biz email and surfing on my new razor max droid....sooooo funny when they try and say nice things about a pathetic slacker nobody had seen in years....i felt sorry for him as he stammered and tried to find some type of humorous anecdote to tell about her...."i remember how appreciative whe was when we rolled her fat self to the car when she could make the meetings once a year or so...and how she would always fall asleep during the entire meeting and fart incessantly...and nobody would wake her up!....chuckle/snort"
oompa....full of life and living large now...time to have some fun...and you can do that when you dont live in fear anymore....me and my boys are kickin jw ass in own special fun way....sure beats the obsession i had for trying to get people incapable of reason....and on the most important think in their life....not that they are unreasonable....but incapable of it....because the very meaning of the word involves considering many oposing viewpoints sometimes....reasoning is impossible if you cant look at both sides....man was i beating my head against the wall for five years???? REALLY?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??.....................what a waste of time......soooooooo wish i had them back...........oompa
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What's so mysterious about "generation" (genea) in Matthew?
by kepler inthanks to a number of notices about a website titled www.jwfacts.com, i took a quick tour and found some very informative pages and charts about the organization's positions and history.
thanks also to a number of posters for their reminders.
i can't summarize the whole site in a topic, but it did include a history of the interpretation of the phrase "this generation", appearing in matthew 24:34.. "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.".
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oompa
this thread was interesting yet simple...i also noted that it has more long posts on it than average by far....and the context suggest that maybe some of these posters were on the GB???? reading this was like having a vision of the GB sitting around with all these crazy ideas....they start nice like this....then one guy says the others are wrong and that god just revealed the answers to him in a dream last night about what a generation REALLY is this time....then a slow gerriatric fight breaks out.....and one guy storms out telling them all there acting like a bunch of flucking mormons.....oompa
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"please sign in" was all mom said to me and my boys at her sisters funeral yesterday at the kindom hall
by oompa inmy dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.
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lou i checked out awhile...did you do your usa trip?
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"please sign in" was all mom said to me and my boys at her sisters funeral yesterday at the kindom hall
by oompa inmy dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.
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my dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk AT ALL to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow
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i feel your pain donny...my goodbye with my folks happened a year ago...so i get it...keep hoping to find a way for them to at least accept you as before to some extent...i have some ideas if you want to contact me ............oompa
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Glory Days
by MrFreeze inso i was looking back at my (rather short) life thusfar.
usually people will talk about their glory days.
usually it is high school or college.
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freeze i have felt like on way too many occasions...sometimes severely and have been on a bunch of meds before...but only one now and i dont think i need it anymore....the doc that got me off all my meds knows all about my jw shunning thingy and loss of all lifetime friends...and he said "hell who wouldn't want to drink? who wouldnt be depressed?"....it felt good to me normal....i strongly reccomend finding an interest that flips your switch and additonally a woman who does so...you need sex and bad....and make her and others feel incredible about themselves and are enthusiasting in general....wow you suddenly are giving off this great karma i swear...define it how you choose
and since you never had goals...and wow do i get that and it pisses me off some but i am coping better with that...whew...we were spoon fed the goals of our parents and others...and it was: THAT JEHOVAH NOT DESTROY ME AT ARMAGEDDON....and that meant you had to do everything they said or you would get the belt...pretty effective too....ya...i do have PTSD but some positive influences in my life has really helped a lot....tough it out and force yourself to excerise every day and view it like medicine if you must....hit me up anytime...............oompa
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I have hired 2 more employees this week that are DF'd to go with my several jw employees...i am giving an amazing witness!!
by oompa ini had two new positions open up out of the blue recently and as luck would have it...for some reason i know a helluva lotta ex-jws lol!
especially with two young and popular dfd sons who also hang with a lot of ex dubs...but that maybe is another thread....we are drawn to those with similarities very often and being an exjw is a pretty small club....and we left a true brotherhood to many and a network for sure to everyone else.
so at work none of the non jws care for the jws and some have asked them to stop giving them paper crap and leave them alone...when one of them acted pissed that i had told some of the guys he would not ride with me to a jobsite lmao....of course they thought a new level of insanity had overtaken one of my normally great employees...so i told her "why would i not mention that to the shop guy/friends...im not ashamed of anything???".
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i actually do want a new accountant...i have already had a consultation with one...you have a pm finally awake
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oompa
hahah...oops i guess i started the apostadick post twice...dont know how this posted???
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don't become an APOSTADICK guys....which is why i bought my apostaphone
by oompa inmy jw wife was freaking out about me talking to anyone she did not know pretty much...and i honestly did not want to offend her with any converstions she would find offensive...and she and other jw employees have access to all cell phone records and have even contacted "weak" friends of theirs they happened to find out i had been talking to....wonder how...now i just dont care anymore about my stupid phone records and dont need an apostaphone....ahhhhhh the freedom.
so instead of any informative frontal "attack" of anything with substance....which when done enough quickly makes you an apostadick....and wow you never recover from that reputation typically...............oompa.
but be nice...and enjoy your life....and hope they use the internet more eventually....patience is a virture.
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my jw wife was freaking out about me talking to ANYONE she did not know pretty much...and i honestly did not want to offend her with any converstions she would find offensive...and she and other jw employees have access to all cell phone records and have even contacted "weak" friends of theirs they happened to find out i had been talking to....wonder how...now i just dont care anymore about my stupid phone records and dont need an apostaphone....ahhhhhh the freedom
so instead of any informative frontal "attack" of anything with substance....which when done enough quickly makes you an APOSTADICK....and wow you never recover from that reputation typically...............oompa
but be nice...and enjoy your life....and hope they use the internet more eventually....patience is a virture