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  My First Birthday.....

  by The Marvster in

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  i awoken today and realised immidiately i'm 44 today... and after 3 years of being out, decided to acknowledge my birthday.... i'm off out to treat myself to a big hearty breakfast with cup of tea in the local weatherspoon's by the massive pond full of weird bird-life, later today i'm giving myself a gift of a 90 minute relaxation session in a float tank down by canary wharf in london.... only really have 2 close friends (it's a slow process trusting people agian) and they probably won't be able to see me today, but i'm sure i'll have a belated surprise from them both.... the first thing i did when i remembered was to rush to the computer, connect to the web and put on stevie wonder's 'happy birthday', as i listen to it, tears stream down my face... all those years of my life stolen ' but..... i'm free....'.

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  Tornintwo

  Happy Birthday!!!! Don't forget no chopping anyone's head off!

  but seriously, found your post very moving, would love to give you a big hug
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  Tornintwo

  They still do marking where I am, although it might not have that label as such.

  About a year ago In another cong the elders found out a boy of about 20 went to a 'worldly' party and kissed a girl, all of the youths in the congregation were told by the elders not to associate with him for 6 months, he stuck it out and after his 'punishment' was allowed to associate with them again. He's one of the only ones with a car so the kids were glad to have him back.

  i just find it crazy, what are other kids of 20 doing sexually? This guy is crossing his legs for the org. And makes one small mistake, a kiss, and so has to face social isolation for 6 months, poor guy, surprised it didn't wake him up. Of course they're all patting themselves on the back that the 'discipline' worked.
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  What are the things that wake people up from the Watchtower Corporation?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i became an elder i saw the dark side.

  a side i previously believed couldn't possibly exist in the one true religion of the happiest people on earth.. then they rolled out 'overlapping generations(tm)' and that was the last straw.. all my life i had doubts but surpressed them thinking i was at fault and not the cult leaders.. it seems more likely that now the governing body are parading around like popes, wearing their expensive jewellery, that this will nauseate even dyed in the wool jws.. i wonder if the wake up can be condensed into main categories?.

  1. experiencing the cruel handling of matters by the wbt$ reps.. 2. crazy doctrine (eg.

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  Tornintwo

  I think there has to be some moment which makes you think 'maybe this isn't Jehovah's organisation....'

  For me it was having my kids mistreated by a prominent elder, who showed no remorse whatsoever, a real nasty piece of work - next assembly who's giving the talk about being more loving? - that was the first moment when I thought 'maybe Jehovah's spirit isn't here after all.....' -

  That got the ball rolling, then there were many other examples of lack of love, judgementalism, mistreatment of vulnerable ones. People saying bat**** crazy things when my son drifted away such as 'it's worse than if he had died....' What!?....An elder gave a talk and emphasised that all children of non-witnesses will die at Armageddon, etc etc...the snowball effect was in flow...

  All of this comes to the point when you 'allow' yourself to research your doubts and look at the other side of the argument, thankfully I found this forum and JWfacts very quickly - bang - eyes open!
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  Tornintwo

  Sounds like the anti communist paranoiia in the McCarthy era in the USA....

  Or worse East Germany in the Stazi era....

  Or China today...

  and so on.....
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  Tornintwo

  I'm sorry Nicolaou, what happened with him?

  my son was a suspect teen, he made the break after being rejected by the judgemental lot, funny thing was, he was still at all the meetings and on the ministry, but this hair and attitude wasn't good enough for them. It was very painful for him at the time and he's had a lot of anger issues and experimented with drugs etc since but he's becoming more stable now, he has a good bunch of new friends who are unconditional. When I saw the way the witnesses treated him when he left, it started my awakening.
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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  Tornintwo

  This kind of rubbish makes me so angry and is dangerous. I've seen it cause real problems for young ones in the congregation. So you have a young boy or girl, hits 14, is feeling the pull of their worldly friends at school etc and the normal turmoil of adolescence, perhaps they are trying to find themselves, so they get a bit of an attitude, cut or dye their hair, start to express themselves with some cooler or more alternative clothes and music .....all completely normal behavior for teenagers!!! But because of this awful indoctrination, other young ones in the cong and more often their parents start looking at this youth with suspicion and judgment, perhaps they are no longer a 'good association'. So they get uninvited to social events, avoided by other youths in the organisation and rumors spread.

  What next? we have a youth who faces a loneliness and isolation from the only piers he/she is permitted to associate with, at a time of life when they desperately want the company of their piers. A) they remain lonely and frustrated until they conform to the drone ideal and prove themselves to the self righteous, judgemental brothers. B) they do the only sensible thing and move towards their 'worldly' associates and leave the org. With all the pain and fallout that goes with it, whilst the judgemental lot shake their heads and lament, 'I told you there was something worldly about him/her'. C) they are driven to depression or even suicide having been rejected by the only community they have ever known.

  Makes me sick.
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  Hubby has been doing research on the internet!!!!

  by atacrossroads in

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  2. friends

  my husband was recently subjected to an intervention by his parents.

  i am apparently a danger to his spirituality.

  after i stopped attending meetings and went apostate hubby decided to resign as a ms to spend more time with me.

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  Wow, what a result! Great news for you. Isn't it ironic that their controlling, critical form of showing 'love' is having the opposite effect on him. Try to point him to jwfacts.com if you can, some of the other apostate websites can turn people back to the org they can be overly bitter and critical, imo
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  What is Your Favorite JW YouTube Video?

  by cognac in

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  2. friends

  maybe it's shocking, funny, a good story, etc.. i was just watching the one below... i was shocked!

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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qmypu7mxo.

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  Tornintwo

  Can we have a 'serious ex-jw you tube video' thread too, there's so much crap out there I don't know which ones are really good to watch. I'm talking about experiences, former elders, recorded judicial meetings etc, any top recommendations?
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  What is Your Favorite JW YouTube Video?

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  maybe it's shocking, funny, a good story, etc.. i was just watching the one below... i was shocked!

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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qmypu7mxo.

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  Breakfastofchampions....hilarious video, we actually used to sit through those things hahahah
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  Hilarious Whatsapp message received - FIRST day after Big D

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a hilarious stupid wa message is being circulated amongst jws in my area / country.. i had a hearty laugh at the ignorance and stupidity and brainwashed mentality, different people may express different emotions so you have been warned.

  day one after armageddon it seems ages since we last heard the gunshots and screams, today has been really quiet.

  the last few weeks have been sheer terror.

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  Tornintwo

  Anyone who had a part in writing this message or reads it with appreciation is completely insane and devoid of all human compassion.