Posts by Tornintwo

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Memorial mixed emotions...

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

does anyone else feel 'pulled back in' at this time of year?.

i still consider myself to a believer, believe in god and jesus christ, on the whole i think he taught tolerance, love, acceptance and i think we can benefit from following his example.

i love ray franzs book in search of christian freedom.

Tornintwo

Sabin, that's what I needed to hear thank you.

Smiddy, yes, I am one of those people who like to believe JC and the NT, the nice bits of the Bible and ignore the inconvenient parts of the OT. I accept entirely it may well be illogical and easy to criticise, but I can't shake belief in something/someone, a higher being that at least started the process of creation/evolution, a great scientist if you like. I also think it is entirely feasible that some of the scriptures are the product of man's desire to control but that there is some elements of truth in them also, and the fact that the entire Western calendar is based on Jesus birth tells me there was something special about him. Maybe one day I'll be strong enough to examine with logic my entire belief system, and perhaps it will come crashing down, for now I'm not ready for that and my faith brings me some comfort.

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Memorial mixed emotions...

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

does anyone else feel 'pulled back in' at this time of year?.

i still consider myself to a believer, believe in god and jesus christ, on the whole i think he taught tolerance, love, acceptance and i think we can benefit from following his example.

i love ray franzs book in search of christian freedom.

Tornintwo

Does anyone else feel 'pulled back in' at this time of year?

i still consider myself to a believer, believe in God and Jesus Christ, on the whole I think he taught tolerance, love, acceptance and I think we can benefit from following his example. I love Ray Franzs book In search of Christian freedom. So I sort of have to respect Jws for trying to bring peoples attention to his sacrifice at this time of year and I am toying with the idea of attending. For a few reasons, mainly because I want to acknowledge his sacrifice and don't know how or where else to do it and I want to test how I feel about things after 6 months since my last meeting.

BUT, I've no intention of going back, I disagree strongly with so much now, their superiority complex, believing everyone else will die and planning shamelessly to move into the slaughtered ones homes, the blood issue, cover up of child abuse, the entire judicial process, the hierarchy, GB worship, stupid stance on birthdays, judgementalism, cliques......

so why am I feeling this way? Is it just an emotional response to 25 years of indoctrination? Am I crazy to even consider opening myself up to their judgement or worse, their efforts to make me return!?! Anyone else feeling like this..?

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Judgment handed down by Court of Appeal in legal challenge to Charity Commission inquiry opened in 2014

by OrphanCrow in

this is good news.

the wt have lost in their attempt to stop the uk charity commission's inquiry into their affairs.

however, the wt is still digging in their heels about turning documents over to the charity commission.https://www.gov.uk/government/news/court-of-appeal-gives-judgment-in-court-case-by-jehovahs-witness-charityjudgment handed down by court of appeal in legal challenge to charity commission inquiry opened in 2014.today, the court of appeal handed down its judgment regarding the commission’s statutory inquiry, opened in 2014, into the watch tower bible and tract society of britain (the leading jehovah’s witness charity in the uk).

Tornintwo

So much effort and legal costs (I doubt they are relying on amateurs for this) to avoid producing files from Bethel, hmm now what have they got to hide? I reckon the UK branch records are more damning than the australia 1006 unreported peodophiles, they'll fight as long as they can to stop them being revealed.

It must be so frustrating for the authorities who are just trying to improve safeguarding of children

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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

by elderess in

jw
friends

only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

Tornintwo

What fantastic news, how wonderful to be able to vent to your husband now as well as just on here! Here's to the rest of your lives!! X

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Tight Pants

by pixel in

today is friday.

so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.

tight pants!.

Tornintwo

I agree stuckinarut, these guys are sacrificing higher education, putting their own personal goals on hold for the org., keeping chaste at the hardest time in history to do so, rejecting 'worldly' friends or potential girlfriends, but all that isn't enough, you can't be fashionable either.... Wow just unbelievable !

I so hope this wakes a few up and they all grow beards and go off to university in their skinny jeans!

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Tight Pants

by pixel in

today is friday.

so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.

tight pants!.

Tornintwo

Omg just saw this thread and can't believe this is for real. Just about every brother I know under the age of 30 is gonna have to buy a new suit!!! So ridiculous, pathetic man made rules Hahahahahahaha

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Saturday Morning Vibes

by freemindfade in

its saturday morning here on the east coast of america.

i haven't been out in service in probably getting close to two years.

i wake up every saturday extremely happy and thankful im not getting up to go f-ck up my morning and my neighbors morning, not today, not ever again.

Tornintwo

I take my toddler to an indoor play center now on saturday mornings where she can make friends, bounce on trampolines, go down slides and jump in ball pools! No more being strapped in a pram pushed from door door and bribed to keep still and quiet!

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All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.

by deanxxx in

i know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.

there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.

on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.

Tornintwo

I watched Spotlight last weekend and it's just excellent, it's based in the newsroom on the reporters, it just gives you a sense of the enormity of what went on in the Catholic Church and the scale of the cover up, how high up it went etc. just shocking.

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Just a simple question.

by Sabin in

jw
friends

do you think it is easier for an elder to wake up to the wtbts because of the position he is in which gives him access to info that the rank & file would not be privy to, or do you think it would be harder for him to wake up because of all the prestige/power/admiration he receives as a result of being an elder, or does it come down to something else entirely?.

Tornintwo

I think it could work both ways, more chance to see what's really going on behind the curtain, but more chance of being so caught up in the action that they either enjoy the position of authority or are too busy to question.

Robo bobo, tell us more about bethel!?!?!?!

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If your Absence doesn't affect them, then your Presence never mattered!

by stuckinarut2 in

what a powerful quote!.

"if your absence doesn't affect them, then your presence never mattered.".

how true!

Tornintwo

So true. It does hurt though, because we were told this was the most loving organisation on earth, that this was our real family, that we were all there to support eachother etc etc. so not true. The love is conditional on you being a happy and productive, silent and obedient cog in a very large machine. My teenage kids found this the hardest thing about leaving, they knew something wasn't right yes, logic told them that, but to see how quickly the 'brothers' dropped them and moved on without a second thought, how little effort was made to reach out to them, of course it hurts. But it just tells us all it was never what we were told it was.

My non jw family have always stuck by us, even when we made decisions they didn't understand or refused to celebrate their most treasured events, that's real love. Now I'm glad we can repay them by being there for them instead keeping them at arms length whilst serving a manmade organisation.