omg - just watched the clip above, haven't had chance to read transcripts yet as I usually do daily
quote their excuse for GJ not appearing:
sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.
i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.
he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
omg - just watched the clip above, haven't had chance to read transcripts yet as I usually do daily
quote their excuse for GJ not appearing:
sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.
i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.
he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
Sorry if this is a repeat but I would like to see focus on the October 2012 letter of the governing body to the elders:
" Not every individual who has sexually abused a child in the past is considered a ‘predator.’ The branch office, not the local body of elders, determines whether an individual who has sexually abused children in the past will be considered a ‘predator.’ If the branch office determines that an individual will be considered a ‘predator,’ parents with minor children will need to be warned of the danger that exists so that they can protect their children.
So the elders get to decide who is a predator?
Do they not accept that pedophiles generally appear as wolves in sheeps clothing, i.e. appear meak mild and innocent on the outside but are predatory and that this may not easily be detected by the elders? Not exactly going to hold a sign saying ' I AM A PREDATOR' are they?
Do the elders/branch agree to be liable if they get this wrong and don't identify a predator correctly?
Does the organisation accept the professional view of the high propensity to reoffend amongst pedophiles?
Also in this letter is the paragraph on privileges:
“It cannot be said in every case that one who has sexually abused a child could never qualify for privileges of service in the congregation."
Why not? Why shouldn't a pedophile a criminal of the sort with a notoriously high propensity to reoffend be completed excluded from privileges for the rest of their life - small punishment.
Finally - what will they say to the universal right to preach which allows known pedophiles to call on homes of the unsuspecting public, including places where there are young children, and conduct bible studies.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/08/04/jehovahs-witnesses-change-abuse-rules.
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jws in australia agrees to change procedures in regards to reporting abuse..
firstly, thank you to anyone who is in support of this rc.
no one has shown anything but great interest and empathy for those who were abused.. i don't know who this simonsays character is though and i find him to be very rude and ignorant.
it takes all kinds to make the world go round i suppose.. today i was contacted by a staff member of the royal commission.
Well done!!! what courage.
It restores my faith in humanity to see good justice in action. I hope you get your own justice, don't be afraid to go for compensation, if you have been a victim of a crime, you have the right to it! In UK there is a criminal compensation board for just that.
like the title says....those of you who made it out with you husbands or wives.
you people are so lucky!!!.
lucky because your wife or husband isn't brain dead and can think and reason for themselves.
like the title says....those of you who made it out with you husbands or wives.
you people are so lucky!!!.
lucky because your wife or husband isn't brain dead and can think and reason for themselves.
I have a fingers in the ears spouse too, I feel your pain...
im just learning tatt so I'm zealous about it, especially this week with the Australian royal commission but he won't even read a newspaper article about it, it is maddening isn't it?
having said that I had a bit of an epiphany this week, he became very depressed to the point of not functioning because I'd managed to get some stuff through to him that I think caused C.D. He had an awful childhood and a very early adult difficult life and I think he feels Jehovah/the org saved him. I'm honestly not sure he could cope mentally with awakening.
So I've decided to back off, agree to disagree and focus on positive non jw aspects of our marriage, kids, eating out together, movies, sex etc... Try to be a good wifey, the only time that will be difficult is when we clash on parenting, but I hope to be the voice of reason&balance for the kids when it comes to higher education, extracurricular activities and 'worldly' friends, we'll see how that goes?!?!?!
jw leaks - thank you to those who have contributed to the child abuse royal commission.. .
there's been quite a number newspaper articles quoted over the past week, but i would recommend this as a good summary of the first three days of the royal commission hearing in australia - complete with some scathing commentary.. apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but have not seen this posted previously.. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/08/01/royal-commission-examines-jehovah-witnesses-cover/14383512002194.
just one thing that is not quite right is that the article refers to joe bello as a narrogin elder.
the assualts took place while the victim was part of the narrogin congregation.
I'm not sure why this thread got so argumentative so quickly, didn't see much to offend in the op....
anyway, by the way WTs lawyer was conversing with the chair at the end of Friday's session whilst questioning Monica applewhite, it appeared they are ready to make some concessions, speaking of their policies evolving etc..
I wonder if they will allow a mature sister to support the victim, allow testimony by recording or letter to work in line with what has been brought out about protecting the victim, and appease the state a little . But I can't see them changing the 2 witness rule because it is so fundamental to their judicial process.
jw leaks courtesy of the australian royal commission.
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This mandatory reporting business is driving me crazy, so much emphasis on if you have to report by law or not.
where's the common sense? Where's the humanity? What kind of state would society be in if nobody ever reported a crime unless they were required by law to do so?
People shouldn't have to be forced to report a person who is clearly a danger to children!!! Nobody should be looking for an excuse to allow a child abuser to go unchecked and unpunished by the authorities which btw 'were placed in their relative positions by God".
shame on any elder who's ever avoided his moral obligation to report such a monster, shame on wt society for actively discouraging elders from doing so.