Posts by Tornintwo

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How did you feel when you found out "the truth about the truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.

the un membership.

the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.

Tornintwo

Love reading this thread - so many likeminds - thank you so much for all your responses.

I relate to Sabin, the indoctrination is so strong. There are days when you feel pulled back into the fear, obligation and guilt. Thats why this site is so important, it affirms and validates what you know to be true.

I cried a lot when I first started reading jwfacts and COC, its a mixture of regret over 25 years of decisions made under the influence of the GB, opportunities lost forever, and a feeling that your entire foundation has cracked and you don't know where you fit in or what to believe anymore. At the same time there is immense relief, no longer having to go out on service, to several meetings a week, no longer feeling crap for never being good enough, no longer having to make excuses for and try to love nasty individuals in the hierarchy. Not to have to be friends with some people who you think are completely nuts and would cross the road from in real life! Free to form your own beliefs, make friends with who you want to, spend your time as you see fit. But like many, many others here, I so wish I'd done it 20 years ago.

Lurkers - seize the opportunity now and walk away, don't waste another minute living your life for 7 men on a huge ego trip.

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Fade update...

by StarTrekAngel in

i have attended only one meeting in the past 3 weeks.

i know there is no way to leave this cult fast enough, but is my fade too fast?

Tornintwo

I was 'irregular' for a while for genuine issues, sickness,young baby at home etc... this is when I was upset and doubting

Then when I woke up properly I went cold turkey, last meeting over 3 months ago. No problems from the elders.

I had one visit from the CO but I came accross as confused and doubting, with family problems, so as not to ring any 'apostate' alarm bells, since then nothing. My JW husband knows how I feel but we agree to disagree (most of the time).

Like others said, if you don't have parents/close relatives in the org. - just walk away...the GB just confirmed in writing to the ARC that you are free to leave with no repurcussions. If anyone comes after me or my daughter I plan to use that document.

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$1.2 billion coming, still 12 properties to go

by the girl next door in

but still, they ask for more at every opportunity.

send in that ice cream money kids!.

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/4/sales-watchtower-headquarters-and-two-other-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-properties-could.

Tornintwo

Doesn't look like they will be going bust anytime soon..

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Storm Desmond flooding UK

by Xanthippe in

jw
friends

so 550,00 homes in lancaster without power because of flooding in a substation caused by desmond.

including my daughter who is at university there.

no electricity.

Tornintwo

I'm sorry xanthippe you must be so stressed. I'm sure she'll be fine, hopefully all the students will help eachother out X

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Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

hi people,.

i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

Tornintwo

Converted...

baptised 1993

woke up 2015

duped for 22 years

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Sundays without the indoctrination session...

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

what are you doing instead of the meeting?.

i'm ordering cool personalised pressies for all of my non jw family online, whilst listening to some great 80's classics (currently fade to grey, visage).

.

Tornintwo

What are you doing instead of the meeting?

I'm ordering cool personalised pressies for all of my non JW family online, whilst listening to some great 80's classics (currently Fade to Grey, Visage).

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Scriptures that will never be the YEAR TEXT

by ttdtt in

so what scriptures do you think will never make the cut?i will start off with one to warm you all up.. 1 corinthians 4:6 - do not go beyond the things that are written,.

Tornintwo

From in search of Christian freedom quoted from the Jerusalem bible, ref the GB:

"Is it that you have everything you want—that you are rich already, in possession of your kingdom, with us left outside? . . . Here we are, fools for the sake of Christ, while you are the learned men in Christ; we have no power, but you are influential; you are celebrities, we are nobodies." 1 Cor 4:8-10

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Tornintwo

I'd like to believe God is the way Jesus revealed him to be, loving, compassionate, merciful. So I'm choosing basic Christianity, if it's true then the wheat and the weeds are everywhere, I certainly met a few weeds among the witnesses. We can only do our best as individuals.

If in reality God is like the witnesses say he is; jealous, vengeful, insisting on only worship based on a difficult to find 'accurate' knowledge, if he would kill sincere although misled people for getting it 'wrong', well then he's not very pleasant, and I'd rather not worship him but instead take my chances with the 99.9%.

Its like I'm a parent, imagine I ask my kids to look after something precious to me, but the instructions I leave are confusing and difficult to follow, then they get damaged so you can't even read them properly. I come back to find they've tried their best, are very sincere and wanted to look after the precious thing, but they've got it all wrong because the instructions were a mess. Would I be angry with them? Would I have a right to be angry? As a loving parent, wouldn't I be pleased they did their best, made an effort, had good intentions? Wouldn't I be sorry I didn't make things clearer?

This world's religions & beliefs are a quagmire of confusion, I wouldn't be surprised if all the scriptures are corrupted. As a humanist, atheist, agnostic or theist, the best chance any of us have is to show love, tolerance, kindness and mercy, be thankful for our blessings and hope if there is a god he's a decent guy too.

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Feeling rejected

by Esmeralda001 in

just a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.

however, i'm in the process of becoming one.

in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.

Tornintwo

Smart woman 👏👏👏

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Pistorius charge changed to murder

by Tornintwo in

just read on sky news that pistorius' charge has been changed to murder by the appeals court, on the basis that: .

"pistorius must have foreseen that firing into the toilet would likely have killed whoever was inside - but he went ahead anyway".

quite right too imo, he should go back to prison now.

Tornintwo

Just read on Sky News that Pistorius' charge has been changed to murder by the appeals court, on the basis that:

"Pistorius must have foreseen that firing into the toilet would likely have killed whoever was inside - but he went ahead anyway"

Quite right too IMO, he should go back to prison now. Chances are he knew what he was doing but even you believe his account and he did think it was an intruder, whoever it was in that toilet stood no chance. Anyone in that circumstance who really thought they were in danger, would a) look for or speak to their girlfriend in the other side of the bed first b) run out of the door instead of towards the 'danger'.