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  The "keystone" of the Watchtower.

  by thinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently someone here wrote a thread which basically said that if a certain gb member had only spoken up and proclaimed that 1914 was a proven incorrect date, then the whole watchtower organization would have crumbled.

  1914 was claimed to be the essential doctrine of the wt.

  i humbly disagree.

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  NeonMadman stated:

  Exactly. And because of that, all those other doctrines mean nothing. If the FDS came out next week and announced that there is a Trinity after all, or that all saved persons will actually go to Heaven, the vast majority of JW's would accept it as a marvelous provision of "new light" from Jehovah. I think it would be similar if the FDS decided the moon was made of green cheese. Once you accept the authority of the organization, everything else follows. Unfortunately, I think that would still be true if they started passing out poison Kool-Aid at the district conventions. That's why the JW's are a cult, not just another religion - its members have subverted their will to that of the leadership.

  WELL SAID! Now that's what I call "the truth"!!!!!!!
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  The double dog dare at the Kingdom Hall

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i posted a picture of my watchtower jack o'lantern and lyin eyes double dog dared me to take it to the kingdom hall.

  sooo................. after the trick or treating was over, we loaded the kids in the minivan and drove to the kingdom hall.

  i put the pumpkin on the railing on the front porch right in front of the main entrance.

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  Mulan.....check your e-mail.......
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  The double dog dare at the Kingdom Hall

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i posted a picture of my watchtower jack o'lantern and lyin eyes double dog dared me to take it to the kingdom hall.

  sooo................. after the trick or treating was over, we loaded the kids in the minivan and drove to the kingdom hall.

  i put the pumpkin on the railing on the front porch right in front of the main entrance.

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  I don't mean to leave you hanging, Marilyn. So please don't think I'm trying to be mean or anything. Once word is out about me leaving, then I'll e-mail you to let you know who I am...and even then, I'd appreciate both you and Dave's confidentiality. I hope you understand....
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  The double dog dare at the Kingdom Hall

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i posted a picture of my watchtower jack o'lantern and lyin eyes double dog dared me to take it to the kingdom hall.

  sooo................. after the trick or treating was over, we loaded the kids in the minivan and drove to the kingdom hall.

  i put the pumpkin on the railing on the front porch right in front of the main entrance.

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  Edited by - jimbob on 1 November 2002 21:13:5
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  Are You Embarrassed To Admit You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if the subject of religion or even jehovah's witnesses ringing your doorbell has come up, do you shy away from talking about ever being a witness?

  some have indicated that they felt stupid for ever believing in the watchtower.

  others have said they have a responsibility to help others not get involved in this "cult".

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  Actually for me, it was just the opposite. All through school and for every job I had, I never told anyone I was a witness because I was too embarassed. The Society always was telling you not to hold back and be afraid, but be bold in telling people you were a witness.........well NOT ME!!! I never told a soul. Now that I'm out, I had someone recently ask me if I was religious, and for the first time in my life, I felt comfortable telling them that I USED to be a Jehovah's Witness, but no longer practice. Of course they asked why and I just told them I couldn't mentally take it anymore. It feels like a huge weight lifted off of me!! I am now completely comfortable in telling someone if they ask. I no longer feel shame and have to worry about someone asking why I don't celebrate Christmas, or why I don't do this.....or why I don't do that........I CAN BREATHE FINALLY!!!
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  The double dog dare at the Kingdom Hall

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i posted a picture of my watchtower jack o'lantern and lyin eyes double dog dared me to take it to the kingdom hall.

  sooo................. after the trick or treating was over, we loaded the kids in the minivan and drove to the kingdom hall.

  i put the pumpkin on the railing on the front porch right in front of the main entrance.

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  Hi Marilyn....I know if you were a cat, you'd be dead by now of curiousity. The time is getting closer for me to tell you who I am. We still haven't told our families yet that we are out, but the elders and people in our congregation have been phoning and stopping by on the weekends to see what has happened to us. We haven't answered the phone and the times that they've stopped by at the house, we don't answer the door.....of course I had the stereo blasting one morning, so they pretty much have figured out that we're ignoring them. (They should've realized that some time ago) If it goes too much longer that they don't hear from someone that we've quit going, we are going to spill the beans to them. I guess we've just been hoping that the rumor mill would have worked it's way back to them and we wouldn't have to bring it up. I have been really thinking about stopping by Reinhart's place and talking with him. I don't know how he feels about that. I would definitely call him first. I wouldn't stop by unannounced. It would be really nice to visit with him.
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  The double dog dare at the Kingdom Hall

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i posted a picture of my watchtower jack o'lantern and lyin eyes double dog dared me to take it to the kingdom hall.

  sooo................. after the trick or treating was over, we loaded the kids in the minivan and drove to the kingdom hall.

  i put the pumpkin on the railing on the front porch right in front of the main entrance.

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  Hi Rachel........I have relatives that go to that hall. And they have Thursday night meeting. I'll have to inquire as to what they thought of their suprise on their doorstep.........
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  My DA Letter

  by LB in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought about writing "i quit" but it got a little wordier than i expected.

  but i'm sending this off monday morning.

  i've used a little info gathered here on this site but mostly it's my thoughts.

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  Hi LB. I thought that was a great letter. I also showed my wife who agreed with me. If we were going to write a letter ourselves, I'd definitely copy and paste yours.... I wish we could, but due to the circumstances with the wife's family, we can't. I do applaude your efforts. Hopefully whoever ends up reading your letter will seriously look at the issues you've brought up, rather than skim it and put it in the file with all the others............We wish your family the best!
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  Resurrection Shuffle

  by PopeOfEruke in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of jw "beliefs" that was and still is most confusing to me is the condition of married persons after the resurrection.

  in particular, if one marriage partner dies before the big a and then gets resurrected.. its surprising how many jw's hold sacred their own private interpretation on this.. generally i found that if the marriage had been a happy one, a lot of jw's believe if the surviving marriage partner does not remarry, then they will end up back with their dead-but-back-again married partner after the resurrection.

  in a normal sexual marriage relationship.. if the survivng partner does remarry however, the the old chestnut gets rolled out about people in the resurrection "will neither get married or be given in marriage.

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  This is a topic that has always been at the back of my mind and has always bothered me. It's amazing to me that they say if your marriage mate dies before armageddon........TOO BAD! But you can be friends.... Another stupid interpretation which doesn't make any sense and is really upsetting if you think about it. By the way POPE.......my wife and I have never laughed so hard at a thread as much as we did about your thread on clapping. I was ROTFLMAO!! Then I showed it to my wife and walked away while she read it. All I kept hearing was her busting up laughing. Everything you said was so true. Thanks for the good laugh. While many of us are upset over JW stuff, it's good to laugh sometimes about some of the stupid shit that went on....
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  Name Your Funniest Experience Out In Service

  by Dismembered in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this should be a fun thread.. one of the funniest things i can remember out in "service" .

  was 2 other guys and myself in a car.

  so we take turns going to the door alone.

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  Well......this didn't happen to me (although I wish it did). My friend and and another brother went to this door and this woman came to the door.....BUCK NAKED! Of course, what did this brother do.........he proceeded to go through with his presentation, and after he was done she invited them in to talk more. Well, of course they couldn't do that and excused themselves. DAMN, how come everybody else gets the good doors???

  Edited by - jimbob on 18 October 2002 15:49:9