i have seen several threads about how the elders are going to be going around asking people if they still consider themselves to be jehovah's witnesses.
this will undoubtedly result in multiple da announcements in the coming months.
i'm curious how the average jw will perceive this and respond to it.
First, I must say to JT....you totally crack me up. "Cheese and Cracker men"......I'm ROTFLMAO!! What a great comparison!
And Sabine....my heart goes out to you and your situation. I know Marilyn and Dave, and would at some point like to meet you and your husband. My wife and I live in the same area and have known Dave and Marilyn for many years.
And last.....DON'T GIVE IN TO THE CHEESE AND CRACKER MEN!!!
had a basketball game at the highschool tonight (won 61-39) but i didn't set the vcr.
so i have no clue as to who got voted off.
i know it wasn't a hot babe as they've been gone awhile.
I always have watched all of the Survivor episodes, and while in this episode, Jan may be the nice one that should win....I must say that Brian is quite the Survivor player. I think he's extremely smart when it comes to playing this game. I had a feeling into the 3rd or 4th episode, that Brian was going to be one of the final 2. And so far I've been correct. He knows how to play this game better than anyone I've seen in any of the Survivor episodes. And I think he's smart enough to know who should be with him in the final 2, so that he will get the most votes. (obviously this would mean Clay) I've always known that he was going to take Clay with him. They're extremly tight. He just needs to get Helen to believe that he's on her side so they will all vote for Jan next week. I know, I know....boooo! But that's the way this game is played....nice guys always finish last on Survivor!!!
taken from page 8 of the december 2002 kingdom ministry.
sorry, i don't have a scanner.
do you contribute to an accurate report?.
Reports may reveal that an aspect of the ministry needs attention or that more workers are needed in a certain part of the field. In the congregation, field service reports help the elders identify those with potential to expand their ministry as well as those who may need assistance.
This is a crock of sh*t! These reports are used for elders and COs to continually show everyone that you're not doing enough by getting the "average" hours in. How many times have we heard from the platform.."don't compare yourself to others when it comes to the ministry"......but then in the same breath they say..."you should be getting in at least the average which is 10 hours a month like everyone else in the U.S. is doing". Then on top of that, they tell you how poor little sister so-and-so in the war torn area of such-and-such, with 5 kids, no husband, a shack for a house, and no money gets in 45 hours a month and conducts 4 bible studies. And of course they mention how easy we have it in this country so pioneering and getting 70 hours a month should be a breeze for EVERYONE!! This is a good part of the reason why my wife and I left. We were extremely sick and tired of constantly being told we were never doing enough in service. Both from the platform and the publications. If you get 1 or 2 hours, you're weak. If you get 5 or 6, then you should put forth more effort and get 10. If you get 10 or more...WHY AREN'T YOU PIONEERING?" Years of listening to this crap finally took a toll and we left. Of course this isn't the only reason, but a good part of it. GOD i'M GLAD TO BE FREE OF THAT CRAP!!!!!!
they just seem to not exist.
in my daily travels, in fact i rarely see any 'hovahs out in service, let alone young ones.
she is a teller at my bank, and a hottie, too!
I can't believe it!!!!!!! I just now came home from running a couple of errands....and LO AND BEHOLD....a group of witnesses from my old congregation were stopped to do an RV across the street from my house!! I recognized who they were, and I stopped right behind them to pick up my mail. (They were parked right by the mailboxes) Then I drove up my driveway and into my garage. They saw me...but didn't do anything. I proceeded to do a few things in my garage and put some stuff away, and I thought I heard the doorbell ring, but by the time I got to look outside, they were already gone. Gee, what a shame! I'm sure they were expecting me to come outside and talk with them....Sorry..ain't gonna happen!!!! And of course....they were doing RV's....no door to door. And of course my neighbor was gone. Sure as hell glad I don't got have to wear a stupid suit and knock on doors anymore!!!!!!
they just seem to not exist.
in my daily travels, in fact i rarely see any 'hovahs out in service, let alone young ones.
she is a teller at my bank, and a hottie, too!
I've only been out of the org since August, but up until that time, I can tell you that it was probably years since I actually went door to door. Everytime I went in a car group, everyone either wanted to do RV's or a few scattered not- at-homes. (Which was just fine by me, I always hated service anyway) I believe the pioneers went door to door during the week, but of course, nobody is ever home during the week, so that's why nobody ever sees them, except for maybe the UPS guy or the postal workers. Even the elders and servants hardly ever went door to door, always RV's. I firmly believe that most, if not all, witnesses hate service........they only do it cause they have to or are told to. I knew so many miserable pioneers that hate service and only talk about "getting in their time". What a life, huh????? I'm so glad I'm out!!!!!!!!!
my wife told me that last night a letter was read from the society, explaining how all printing operations in brooklyn were being moved to either walkill or patterson, and that worldwide there would be consolidation of the printing operations.
i know there have been rumors like this floating around here for the last month or so, but now it seems there is confirmation.
has anyone else heard about this letter being read?
Actually since the sale will bring in tens of millions of dollars, the Society will be distributing that cash to all current witnesses who have a publisher card on file. Because it was only by contributions of all of Jehovah's people that made it possible for the Society to be as rich as it is, they only thought it was fair to give back to the people that gave money to them. The cash distribution will be returned on the basis of your average hours per month over the last 5 years....with regular pioneers getting the most. This offer is only available to current witnesses.....it is not available to apostates, disassociated, DA'd, inactive, or ex JW's. If you wish to be included in this one time cash payout, then you must come back to meetings, and go out in field service for a minimum of 20 hours per month. This is a limited time offer, so you must act fast. Please contact your local congregation and they will be happy to assist you!
my youngest son brought this article to my attention.
very, very interesting.
it was in the seattle pi, yesterday, december 2.. student risks ire of mormons.
I also saw read that article. They could've substituted JW for Mormon and the article would still apply. I always knew that Mormons excommunicate their members, but this article really drives it home. Too bad for him!
we just got back from our circuit assembly.
in the final discussion, the district overseer went on about 'not having anything to do with organizations or any part or branches of organizations that would have objectives contrary to kingdom interests.
it was quite obvious to those in the know, that he was talking about the united nations scandal.
Hi Marilyn...I know for some who've devoted many years it can feel like you've wasted so much. I'm only in my 30's and I feel like I've wasted a lot of years, so I can imagine how you feel. But I feel what's most important is the years we have left and how we use them. I'm sure you agree! Glad to hear you had a nice Thanksgiving. At least you have family that can appreciate and celebrate Thanksgiving together. Perhaps at some point we could meet Sabine and Makena. I still would like to contact Reinhard. Perhaps if he will be around during the holidays this month I could get in touch with him. Good to hear from you and take care. Tell Dave hi!
we just got back from our circuit assembly.
in the final discussion, the district overseer went on about 'not having anything to do with organizations or any part or branches of organizations that would have objectives contrary to kingdom interests.
it was quite obvious to those in the know, that he was talking about the united nations scandal.
It must be hard to "drone" along. My wife droned along with me for years before she finally told me how she felt, and of course by then, I was ready to leave. So I feel quite fortunate to have a wife that feels the same way I do...I just wish she would have told me sooner. But she thought I would be mad at her. Ha! The only thing I'm pissed about is all the wasted years. But we're still young, thank god! Hopefully you and your wife don't have to continue to drone along for very long. I can't tell you how good we've felt since we left. Other people have commented to us how good and relaxed we both look now. Hopefully you won't have to stay in for much longer. But it's always interesting to hear of all the crap they still talk about at assemblies...and I guess we wouldn't know if it wasn't for droners (is that a word?) like yourself. I wish the best for you.
there have been a couple of postings lately about long assemblies.. does anyone remember these, or maybe even attended them?.
i was just a young child in the early 70's and something tells me i remember a long assembly, but don't remember if it was 8 days.. how long were they exactly, and what times.
what the hell did they talk about???.
Any assembly was LOOOOOONNNGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!
