Posts by AnneB

possibly this could happen in a dramatic sudden way or a slow burn but can you see the human race progressing to the point were they no longer need to belive in these myths and legends?.

I see a secularization of ritual. People do love their celebrations; even JW's have their Memorials, weddings, CO visits, good-bye parties, etc. I don't see such things ending, they'll just be taken out of the realm of religion and replaced with observations of non-religious occasions like Stephen Foster Memorial Day (January 13th), Idaho Human Rights Day (January 17th), International Mother Language Day (February 21), ad infinitum. Hallmark will still sell cards, there will still be Lay-Away at stores, gifts will still be exchanged on certain of the days, but the "benefits" will not be connected with supernatural beings of any ilk. The lessons once associated with religion are already being taught as human qualities or character traits; instead of having a good or bad spirit within oneself, it's now possible to connect certain behaviors with genetic or environmental factors, for example.

I've thought a bit about this shift, and it seems to me that even die-hard religionists can agree that the trend exists; perhaps viewing it as a necessary stepping stone from the elimination of "false religion" to the establishment of "The Truth".

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Anybody here remember Mickey Spillane ?

by smiddy in

i was just thinking back to the time when i was a teenager , i would read a lot of novels,this was before i became a jehovah`s witness and i came across mickey spillanes novels ,mike hammer detective stories,which later became a tv series with darren mcgavin.

during the sixties i learned mickey spillane became a witness,as i understand it from a tract left under his door,and if i remember correctly he became a ministerial servant conducting the weekly book study.he had apparently stopped writing his sex /crime /booze,pulp fiction type of thing.. later on i saw, possibly the 80`s or 90`s that he had started writing again,with the same old formular,and apparently a new much younger wife.

can anybody fill in some details here ?.

AnneB

The story in Hollywood (CA) congregation back in the '70's was that he kept getting DF'd and reinstated, couldn't make up his mind whether he wanted to stop writing or not.

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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12

by yourmomma in

have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?

its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .

if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?

AnneB

Are you saying that it would have been judgmental for the Society to use this paragraph as an opportunity to denounce wife-bashing?

I'm saying that WT is using the dialogue to teach only one point (Don't push people past their limits or bad things may happen). They may (or may not) denounce the use of force somewhere else.

I'm saying that the example teaches the woman how to redirect her own actions. Focusing on the actions of her husband is beyond the scope of the example.

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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12

by yourmomma in

have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?

its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .

if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?

AnneB

they're not saying it's wrong to hit either - that's the point...

The point is how to dodge bullets, not how to judge others.

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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12

by yourmomma in

have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?

its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .

if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?

AnneB

AnneB, are you serious?

Absolutely serious. They're using an inflammatory example, but the point would be the same no matter what example they used: Don't push people past their limits. They're not saying it's right to hit, they're saying if you don't learn to respect someone's limits bad things can happen.

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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12

by yourmomma in

have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?

its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .

if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?

AnneB

Emotions aside, what they're saying is don't push someone past his or her limits. Makes sense and there's nothing wrong with it.

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Any Ideas on who should have the lead singing/acting part in Roger and Hammerstiens "Armageddon the Musical"?

by Jomavrick in

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AnneB

The brother who sings loud but doesn't read the words correctly from the song book and the sister who sits in the back row and who secretly wanted to be an opera singer.

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Acceptable and unacceptable dress for visiting Bethel

by smiddy in

i just came across this on another thread with pictures/photos ,is this for real ?

i couldnt beleive my eyes or ears?.

the control that this organization has over it`s members... is ..is ... well it`s a cult !!

AnneB

Try touring Bethel in January, parking blocks away, then walking through ice and snow wearing meeting clothes, anklets and dress shoes on the little girls, dress shoes with high (but not too high!) heels on the women, suit pants and dress shoes for the males. If you have infants or young children that need to be carried, add that to the misery. Freezing winds, blowing snow, no warm winter coverings because it doesn't even get chilly most of the year where you live. By the time you get to the first building you're frozen to the bone, and you still have to walk from building to building if you want to see as much as you can. They didn't serve refreshments to visitors, not so much as a vending machine for hot chocolate!

We were miserable but tried to put it aside so we could reap the spiritual benefits. We put everything we had into serving Jehovah and making The Truth not just a part of our lives but our purpose for being.

If there's any credit out there for trying to do the right thing whole-souled...