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  Light a Candle for Oompa

  by BabaYaga in

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  there is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.

  i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.

  (we love and miss you, oompa.).

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  AnneB

  http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Oompa

  Re-lit. Some of the candles are getting low...
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  Poor homeless Bro. Larry Jackson

  by ShirleyW in

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  theres a story in the ny daily news today that says this jw is homeless and was denied shelter after having a brief conversation with the woman who helped him with his application after he mentioned he was a jw.

  her reasoning of why she denied his application was that she thought he would go door to door in the 45-unit facility!

  i myself find that hilarious, he just mightve done that to get his time in!

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  Several years ago (1980's) there was a sister in Massachusetts with two young sons who lived under a bridge for nine months. She was not a substance abuser, she did not have serious mental issues, she was just unfortunate enough to have a broken marriage.

  Nine months! She lived through the winter without proper shelter with two children!
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  Make Them Prove That You Were Baptized!

  by VM44 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this might not work for everyone, but it might for some.. if a person faces disfellowshipping, the person should make the elders prove that they are baptized!.

  as far as i know, baptism records are not sent to bethel.. without two witnesses to the event (and the witnesses have to remember seeing the person immersed), and no photos, there would be no proof.. if someone did this, the elders would of course contact bethel for instructions, but what could they do?.

  it would put a stop to the elders proceeding with any action..

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  Blondie: I wondered about that myself (unbaptized publishers). The difference is that an unbaptized publisher is already known to the local elders while a person who hasn't been in the same congregation since baptism might not be known, thus require outside evidence in the form of testimonials.
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  Make Them Prove That You Were Baptized!

  by VM44 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this might not work for everyone, but it might for some.. if a person faces disfellowshipping, the person should make the elders prove that they are baptized!.

  as far as i know, baptism records are not sent to bethel.. without two witnesses to the event (and the witnesses have to remember seeing the person immersed), and no photos, there would be no proof.. if someone did this, the elders would of course contact bethel for instructions, but what could they do?.

  it would put a stop to the elders proceeding with any action..

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  There's another part to the story...

  If the elders can't find two witnesses to your actual baptism they can fall back on "proof" that two people have heard you identify yourself as a JW and are living as a JW (going out in field service, "making disciples").

  I got this info from the Bethel Service Desk about 6 years ago. During the same phone call the brother/elder told me that baptism records are kept only at the local level.
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  weird "shepherding" phone call

  by snakeface in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as many of you know, i recently wrote a letter to the elders telling them to make sure the congregation stays off my property.

  in the letter i mentioned that i "left the organization several years ago.

  " i have not had any contact with any witneses for about 5 years even though i was not disfellowshipped and not even counseled; i just stopped showing up.. well last night a brother called me (not an elder, just a publisher) but i let the call go to voice mail.

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  Be careful. Sometimes these "random" calls actually have more than one brother on the line so that they have "two witnesses", thus trapping you.

  If you do get a call from a JW, my suggestion is to disconnect without saying a word.
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  Does it look like a fraud to you?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thanks for the mail...as they say, punctuality is the soul of business.

  i believe promptness is key if any business is to thrive.

  i want to thank you for your prompt response.

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  Google "Reshipping scam". Never mind. Saved you the trouble. Click on the link:

  https://www.google.com/#hl=en&biw=1366&bih=598&sclient=psy-ab&q=reshipping+scam&oq=reshipping+scam&gs_l=hp.3...61240.63739.1.64118.15.13.0.0.0.0.363.1374.2-3j2.5.0.les%3B..0.0...1c._im1x4YiQg8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=ed99c3aad9b27cff

  Edited to add: Make that paste in the link....can't find the little link-y icon to make the thing clickable.
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  One smart householder!

  by man oh man in

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  2. friends

  you might enjoy this lady's experience with a jw visit.

  she is too nice but also more smart!.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vgug6sbppy.

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  When they asked her if they could read her a Bible verse, she should have responded "Why?" instead of saying yes. "Why?" asks "What's in it for you?" and that's what needs to be understood to make a sound decision on whether to continue in a transaction (or relationship!)...not, "What's in it for me?" but "What's in it for you?" That simple "Why?" could have exposed the fact that JW's are there for their own benefit (saving their necks at Armageddon, not yours).

  She also gave them 'wayyyyy too much personal information. What right do total strangers have to ask about someone's life and lifestyle? She lets two strangers in her house, then tells them exactly what she believes, how she lives, and how she is training her children? Why???
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  Why would you make an 83 yr old woman go out in service????

  by loosie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to contact my mothers elders in riverside ca, because my mother doesn't talk to her family.

  since that means at least 12 phone calls to various kh's i thought i'd start with my aunt to see what the name of the congegation is.

  unfortunatly she didn't know.

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  You can call WT HQ and tell them you're making vacation plans and need to know what KH serves <your mother's address>. They'll even give you meeting times and contact info.

  Aside from that, if your mother is in the shape you say she is (not doubting you!), she isn't setting up the field service arrangements. She could stay at home and write one letter a month or make phone calls as she is able; even 15 minutes keeps an infirm publisher "active". It seems to me that someone is trying to climb the congregational ladder at your mother's expense, showing how much care they have for the congregation members.

  Be careful: it may be that these "helpful" folk are siphoning off your mother's resources.
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  Judah Ben Schroeder - where is he now????

  by dreamgolfer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  did he ever get his law degree (old thread) does he practice law?.

  or did he take over his in-laws sell cars to the wtbts dealership?.

  what happened to the book ?.

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  Is his name a patronymic, or is Ben short for Benjamin?

  Ben, as in "Son of". Judah Ben Schroeder = Judah, son of Schroeder.

  Nothing prideful there, eh?
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  607 and 1914

  by snowbird in

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  2. beliefs

  those are just symbols that indicate a numerical value, but to me, they mean much more than that.. my clock showed 6:07 as the time a few minutes ago, and i immediately thought of 607 bce.. a friend's address is 1914 neighbor road - guess what comes to mind.. crazy, isn't it?.

  lol..

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  AnneB

  I recently addressed a letter to PO Box 1915. Guess what I thought of?