Simon, you're aw'right! (Not that I ever thought any different!)
Nathan Natas: Please do return to the forum.
AB
i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..
Simon, you're aw'right! (Not that I ever thought any different!)
Nathan Natas: Please do return to the forum.
AB
i think the problem is, as before, how the aawa is handling things and refusing to answer your critics makes things worse.
critics are not people out to get you, they are critical of something that you have done or given the appearance of doing and pr is the job of responding to address the criticisms.. this is the internet people, you can't just pretend that things didn't happen by deleting the comments!
especially not with a group that wants to claim to offer support and be open and honest.
Relevant insofar as it's possible to uncover Anonymous identities and take action against them.
i think the problem is, as before, how the aawa is handling things and refusing to answer your critics makes things worse.
critics are not people out to get you, they are critical of something that you have done or given the appearance of doing and pr is the job of responding to address the criticisms.. this is the internet people, you can't just pretend that things didn't happen by deleting the comments!
especially not with a group that wants to claim to offer support and be open and honest.
Apropros of nothing, this link may be of interest to some... http://be-law.com/news.php?id=123
Court Grants Ex Parte Application for TRO and OSC Re Issuance of Preliminary Injunction
February 2013
On February 22, 2013, the Alameda County Superior Court granted the ex parte application for a temporary restraining order, order to show cause re: issuance of preliminary injunction, and order for expedited discovery filed by Bergeson, LLP on behalf of its client. The firm's client, a technology company, learned that certain defendants were disseminating its confidential information on internet message boards. In disseminating this confidential information, however, the defendants used pseudonyms, and their identities were, therefore, unknown. The firm's client accordingly filed, and the Court granted, the above application, authorizing the client to, among other things, serve discovery on the relevant internet service provider in order to ascertain and discover the identities of the unidentified defendants and then ultimately enjoin these defendants from continuing to disseminate the client's confidential information on the message boards. Daniel J. Bergeson, Mindy Morton, and Kyung Lee represented the client.
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
Never mind...
when i was bringing my daughter back to her mother's house two elders stopped me and told me they wanted to talk.
i said i didn't have time, they asked me if i wanted to stop by the kh on saturday to talk to them.
i said i didn't have time.
That's stalking. Don't bother writing a letter to them, report the incident to the police.
in the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.
you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.
maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.
During the economic downturn, the government push was on to sign people up for food stamps. The more people on food stamps, the more they could show need for spending on programs to relieve poverty.
Jobs at places like Walmart don't pay much, and the hours are not even half time in many cases, so while a person may be "employed", they're actually underemployed thus entitled to food stamps. That's how the employment numbers can be up at the same time as food stamp recipients can be up.
Oregon has no sales tax, and I've read that because there are no funds being collected, there are far fewer (tax funded) services in Oregon, so it's logical that Oregon would rank as it does.
AB
at every meeting and every assembly i went to, a sister would always ask me "how are you?
how is your family?
" she says it with a gloomy face every time!
The smarmy elder who made sure to shake hands with every female at the meeting. If he couldn't grab someone before the meeting he'd play cat and mouse up and down the aisles until he cornered the resisters.
has anyone ever heard of someone getting their baptism reversed?
ever?.
In one congregation there was a man who was an active drug user, had unconfessed adultery, and was being prosecuted for tax fraud. After several years of active opposition to his JW wife the man decided to get baptized. The elders took him through the questions. The wife told the elders exactly what his status as a drug user was, and about the criminal charges; she didn't know about the adultery (yet). The elders postponed the baptism.
The man left his family and moved into another circuit a few miles away from his family (big city, lots of circuits). There he attended meetings for a month and asked to be baptized. The elders were aware of his family situation and the wife made these elders aware of his personal situation. These elders decided to go allow the baptism to proceed.
A month later he confessed to the adultery and admitted that his wife had been telling the truth about his drug use and criminal activity.
Did they annul or reverse his baptism? Nope. They browbeat the wife.
Six months later they disfellowshipped the "brother". He tried to appeal the discellowshipping on the grounds that his baptism was invalid. It didn't work, they said his baptism was valid because he knew what he was doing at the time he went through the questions.
Mind-boggling.
anyone had any experience of a successful appeal against a disfellowship?
a friend of mine feels he has been dfd unjustifiably & is considering an appeal.
he probably has something of a case - the jc was a total shambles - but i'm very dubious that he has any likelihood of success.. my only experience of a successful appeal is when elders in a neighbouring congregation were appointed by the co & overturned a df in our congregation a few years ago.
My understanding is that an appeal is only successful if the original committee made procedural errors. It has nothing to do with the actual charges, just whether the committee handled it correctly according to the current WT guidelines.
Obviously there have been exceptions (see above).
john and ann betar of connecticut have just been named the longest married couple in the u.s.!
he's 101 and she's 97, and have been married 80years.. .
!.
They don't look very long to me; in fact, she looks rather short!