For the record, Albert Schroeder was married to Charlotte Bowen.
The Gertrude you are thinking of was Poetzinger, married to Martin Poetsinger.
My spelling may be a little off on the surnames.
wasn't albert schroeder married to gertrud schroeder, a death camp victim who survived?
he went to a camp too.. gertruds story is told in a witchtower from the 80s.
(sign of healing - i cant be bothered hunting it down.).
For the record, Albert Schroeder was married to Charlotte Bowen.
The Gertrude you are thinking of was Poetzinger, married to Martin Poetsinger.
My spelling may be a little off on the surnames.
i would like someone to discuss some issues i have.
i understand all are welcome here, so i am sure some elders or former elders could help me.
i was a pioneer for 7 years, before that i was a regular auxiliarry pioneer for 3 years, i have been a witness for 17 years.
I believe you. There are too many similarities between what's happening to you and what happened in my family for me to disbelieve. I haven't posted anything about my history because it's as bizarre as what is being told in this thread and truthfully I didn't think I could deal with the nay-sayers.
I think you hit it right here, inactive:
we were told that night it would be announced that we were volunarily stepping down as pioneer.
Now why would the elders want it to appear that you were volunteering? Because they don't want dissention in the congregation! That's the key to the whole thing. They can't kick you out but if it looks like you're going voluntarily then you aren't a good example any more, are you? As good as you were they were/are afraid that others will start to question, start to examine your situation.
You probably don't know the waves you've caused just by being "good Christians". Now you have to be weeded out, but carefully, so you don't suspect it's happening.
The organization looks after itself, not after you, the publisher. Maybe I shouldn't say that, maybe it's dumping too much information on you at one time and will start you thinking that this board is made up of gut-level WT/Jehovah haters but that's not the case; it's just that I've learned over time...and with much pain.
As far as writing to the Society, please be aware that your letter will be forwarded to your local elders. "Brooklyn" doesn't handle local matters, they bounce them right back. Anyone can write to them though, and anyone can call; they will listen but won't tell you anything definitive, just bounce it back to the locals again.
It feels odd saying even this much. I could say a lot more but again, I haven't told my story and I don't think I'm up to it today. I only mention mine because it resonates with the story you tell. There may be gaps in what you say but I think it's because you don't know yourself what's missing. If you did you wouldn't need to post here, you'd already know the answers.
Shaken to read your experience!
Anne
He was Joan Baez' boyfriend back in the day. Does that explain anything?
so after the revelation study last night where the paragraph was talking about how russell's interpertation of revelation basically didn't work and got discarded, my wife comments with the same old,"the light gets brigther, that's why i respect fds because at least they will change when they figure out something is wrong.
" (insert vomit here) afterwards, me and the book study conductor(i have to at least give him credit, he is someone i can talk to freely about my questions and he has not,as of yet, turned me in) got into a discussion of what 'the light gets brighter' really means.
he basically says so the brothers have made changes, so what?
Did anyone else notice that most of the responses have discussed the analogy instead of the poster's question?
Getting a person to stick to the point goes a long way in demolishing false reasoning.
and there's nothing on the news here about it!.
if anybody sees a news report would you please post the magnitude and damaged areas?.
thanks...we're all fine where i live..
We were at one of the 5 weekly meetings crucial to our survival when the quake hit.
Of course someone had to make the comment: "Well at least we're in the safest place we could be."
Many years ago this story was popular: In a Latin American country an earthquake occurred during the meeting. The elders at one Hall gathered in the back and, after offering a prayer, advised the congregation to stay in the Hall. When the meeting ended and they headed for home they saw that the Kingdom Hall was the only building left standing on the street. At another Hall in the area the elders did a similar thing, they prayed and advised the congregation to head for the street. A few moments later that Hall collapsed.
and there's nothing on the news here about it!.
if anybody sees a news report would you please post the magnitude and damaged areas?.
thanks...we're all fine where i live..
Now there's news....they're still saying 5.6...I think it was worse. The epicenter is about 10 iles fro where I am. Some of my neighbors lost cable service and cell phone service. All the elderly people are trickling downstairs to the Community Room now. I guess they're worried about aftershocks.
i've been through many earthquakes in CA. This one was strange; it sounded like thunder the whole time! The building rocked side to side, reeeeeally rocked!
Ah, well.....back to your regularly scheduled programming!
and there's nothing on the news here about it!.
if anybody sees a news report would you please post the magnitude and damaged areas?.
thanks...we're all fine where i live..
and there's nothing on the news here about it!
If anybody sees a news report would you please post the magnitude and damaged areas?
Thanks...we're all fine where I live.
an elder overheard a brother talking about me dealing with spiritism and made a warning to the cong.
"look at xxxx, he is now possessed by the demons!
we must put on the complete suit of armour from god....never leave the truth....satan is waiting to devour us.
"Look at xxxx, he is now possessed by the demons!"
That's a lawsuit waiting to happen!
i recently attended our special assembly day and the visiting speaker put down hdtv because he didn't think we needed it.
he said that we've been watching tv for many years now without it.
i don't know what bethel is going to do when the tv networks switch to that system.
I went to a circuit assembly years ago and the CO spoke against kitchen gadgets, especially the little electric coffee grinders (Braun is one brand). He said they weren't necessary, they cost money that could be put to better use, etc. A sister I knew had just given me one but I proceeded to get rid of it.
A few years ago Awake! had a whole article about..guess what??? Coffee grinders! The one in their picture looked just like the one I had been guilted into giving away!
although animated it is pretty cool.... .
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mkyh8b1yof8&mode=related&search=.
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That's Animusic. http://www.animusic.com/
You can get it on Limewire.