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  I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

  by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

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  i am an inactive jw.

  i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

  i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

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  AnneB

  Never mind...
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  They ambushed me!

  by Anony Mous in

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  when i was bringing my daughter back to her mother's house two elders stopped me and told me they wanted to talk.

  i said i didn't have time, they asked me if i wanted to stop by the kh on saturday to talk to them.

  i said i didn't have time.

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  That's stalking. Don't bother writing a letter to them, report the incident to the police.
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  Unemployment is down, but why did America set a record 47.8 million on food stamps?

  by moshe in

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  in the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.

  you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.

  maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.

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  AnneB

  During the economic downturn, the government push was on to sign people up for food stamps. The more people on food stamps, the more they could show need for spending on programs to relieve poverty.

  Jobs at places like Walmart don't pay much, and the hours are not even half time in many cases, so while a person may be "employed", they're actually underemployed thus entitled to food stamps. That's how the employment numbers can be up at the same time as food stamp recipients can be up.

  Oregon has no sales tax, and I've read that because there are no funds being collected, there are far fewer (tax funded) services in Oregon, so it's logical that Oregon would rank as it does.

  AB
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  Did you have someone that annoys you at every meeting?

  by Iamallcool in

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  at every meeting and every assembly i went to, a sister would always ask me "how are you?

  how is your family?

  " she says it with a gloomy face every time!

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  AnneB

  The smarmy elder who made sure to shake hands with every female at the meeting. If he couldn't grab someone before the meeting he'd play cat and mouse up and down the aisles until he cornered the resisters.
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  Baptism reversal

  by DanmeraDinglebum in

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  has anyone ever heard of someone getting their baptism reversed?

  ever?.

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  AnneB

  In one congregation there was a man who was an active drug user, had unconfessed adultery, and was being prosecuted for tax fraud. After several years of active opposition to his JW wife the man decided to get baptized. The elders took him through the questions. The wife told the elders exactly what his status as a drug user was, and about the criminal charges; she didn't know about the adultery (yet). The elders postponed the baptism.

  The man left his family and moved into another circuit a few miles away from his family (big city, lots of circuits). There he attended meetings for a month and asked to be baptized. The elders were aware of his family situation and the wife made these elders aware of his personal situation. These elders decided to go allow the baptism to proceed.

  A month later he confessed to the adultery and admitted that his wife had been telling the truth about his drug use and criminal activity.

  Did they annul or reverse his baptism? Nope. They browbeat the wife.

  Six months later they disfellowshipped the "brother". He tried to appeal the discellowshipping on the grounds that his baptism was invalid. It didn't work, they said his baptism was valid because he knew what he was doing at the time he went through the questions.

  Mind-boggling.
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  Appealing a disfellowshipping - any experience

  by dozy in

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  anyone had any experience of a successful appeal against a disfellowship?

  a friend of mine feels he has been dfd unjustifiably & is considering an appeal.

  he probably has something of a case - the jc was a total shambles - but i'm very dubious that he has any likelihood of success.. my only experience of a successful appeal is when elders in a neighbouring congregation were appointed by the co & overturned a df in our congregation a few years ago.

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  My understanding is that an appeal is only successful if the original committee made procedural errors. It has nothing to do with the actual charges, just whether the committee handled it correctly according to the current WT guidelines.

  Obviously there have been exceptions (see above).
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  longest married couple in the U.S

  by His Excellency in

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  john and ann betar of connecticut have just been named the longest married couple in the u.s.!

  he's 101 and she's 97, and have been married 80years.. .

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  They don't look very long to me; in fact, she looks rather short!
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  how valid are commitments made while being a jw.

  by man in black in

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  several times on this board i have read comments from people who were considering joining a new religion.

  and how a jw baptism was not "valid", so there should be no problem while getting ready to join the new church.. if a baptism is not real, what about other aspects of life,, such as a marriage ?

  outside of the legal requirements that are written down and recorded, from a spiritual standpoint, is it just a bunch of nonsense ?.

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  IMO, BandOnTheRun hit it when she alluded to contract law.

  In any sort of arrangement, legally binding or not, doesn't it just make sense that if you discover trickery, fraud, misrepresentation, outright lies, changed standards that affect the agreement, etc., that you have the right to renegotiate or repudiate the agreement?

  The right, not the obligation; however, if you continue on as if the original agreement was still in effect, you're losing ground. Common sense says don't paint yourself into a corner.

  "Let your yes mean yes" applies only to what was agreed upon, not to deviations.

  AB
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  Long time reader first time poster

  by MissMyHarley in

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  trying to get out after only being in for a year or so.

  my wife and i were really taken in by these folks.

  we are both have degrees and should have known better.

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  You could be very right about being used to protect your mother. Take things a step at a time; you may decide to "go inactive" after her affairs are arranged, just to make sure they don't go behind your back and get her to restate her will...it's been known to happen, especially if there is a sizable estate. (Search this site for examples.)

  If degrees are a feather, an estate willed to WT is the whole dang cap!

  In friendship,

  AB
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  Irritated with my sister in law who is trying to claim my baby girls clothes

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  irritated with my sister in law.

  ok so i'm really happy and excited about having my baby girl january 31st!

  the same week i learned my sister in law is having a baby due in october but will be having it delivered september.

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  AnneB

  Your problem isn't your relatives. Behaving as though people can be trusted or taken at their word is "avoidance". You know when people are not trustworthy (relatives or not). As long as you act like they are you will be used and abused.

  "Nice" is not a positive. "Nice" placates. "Nice" lives in its own immature bubble.

  As our friends in the WTBTS put it: "Awake!" We're not living in Paradise. You're going to have to defend yourself (not just from relatives), so study up on topics like "manipulation" and "masochism". There's where you'll learn what to say and how to come across as someone who can't be walked all over.

  Do it now, before you have the baby. Then you can model appropriate behavior as your child grows. That can only benefit both of you.

  Best wishes,

  AB