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  “Well…it was a test”, says a laid-off Bethelite

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got this account second hand.

  a former bethelite was reassigned to a local congregation.

  he had been at bethel for years and is now in his fifties.

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  Steve2 and others, There is a difference between SSI and SSA. For SSA one must work and earn credits before receiving a benefit. SSI is not based on earnings but on age (at least 65) or disability. Please note that there is a difference between MediCare and MediCaid as well; the latter is for low income individuals who meet certain requirements. The laid off Bethelite may indeed be eligible for SSI and Medicaid as well as EBT which is based on income, not longevity.

  Another benefit may be subsidized housing. It's difficult to get in a large city (wait lists) but in smaller towns it doesn't take long at all. Rent is topped out at 30% of adjusted income.

  This ex-Bethelite rode the gravy train for how many years, now it's time for him to learn how others live. He made the choice, he pays the price...not forgetting that he also reaped the benefits and, it seems, is still reaping them since he is known by the term (ex)Bethelite. In the $ecular world (which is what we're talking about here) that designation just doesn't carry any weight at all. There are ways to survive but you have to learn what they are and apply them.
  
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  “Well…it was a test”, says a laid-off Bethelite

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got this account second hand.

  a former bethelite was reassigned to a local congregation.

  he had been at bethel for years and is now in his fifties.

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  AnneB

  Cheer up! When he's 65 he can apply for SSI. If he has a serious medical condition or other disability he may qualify for SSD sooner than that. He can always apply for EBT ("food stamps") and Medicaid if his income is low enough. Otherwise he'll have to work at whatever he can find and take his lumps with the rest of us.

  No special sympathy here, life happens. Deal with it.
  
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  Women are a "stack of bones and a hank of hair" - J.F. Rutherford

  by krismalone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have heard rumors and anecdotes of j.f.

  rutherford calling women "a hank of hair and a stack of bones" but i never thought it was documented.

  well thanks to jwfacts i finally found the quote in print.. this j.f.

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  Millie210, you are correct, Rutherford was quoting from a poem called "The Vampire" by Rudyard Kipling. It's online if anyone wants to look.

  In the poem a man is enamored of a faithless woman and can't see it but his friends can. The phrase that Rutherford quoted he did quite accurately since he was discussing losing out on the heavenly calling to chase after something not worth the time and effort. Rutherford was not being sexist, he wasn't dissing women, he was pointing out what a loss it would be to pursue such a course.

  Quoting well-known poetry is a technique used in public speaking by persons with a classical education. It's the unenlightened who tear him apart in their ignorance.
  
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  Hit by a car evacuating due to oroville dam. Ever been hit?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  2. current

  went back to get info from driver who tapped our car in line of cars exiting the area.

  after getting her info, she waited till i walked back to our car and punched the gas, hitting me.

  then drove off.

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  Went back to get info from driver who tapped our car in line of cars exiting the area. After getting her info, she waited till i walked back to our car and punched the gas, hitting me. Then drove off. was dark and raining and the scene full of panic. No charges filed but insurance all round. Cops hunted her down. Anyone else been run down by a nutjob? How did it turn out? I may need pins in my hand.

  So far not a word said on behalf of the woman involved in this mishap...

  It's just possible that she didn't mean to hit you at all. Perhaps she was already rattled by the evacuation and, in her upset, either hit the wrong pedal or hit with too much force and couldn't recover before you were injured! Driving off after giving you her ID and insurance information seems to show that she had no ill intent, so why impute such to her? "Dark, raining, and the scene full of panic."... and no one can see that she's not a "nutjob" as much as a woman in fright?
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  What are some of the best movies ,musical catergory you have seen .

  by smiddy in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  some that come to mind for me.. seven brides for seven brothers.

  brigadoon.

  carmen.

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  AnneB

  Maytime (1937) Nelson Eddy & Jeanette MacDonald (as are most of my favorites)
  

  Rose-Marie (1936) "Indian Love Call" Beautiful!

  Naughty Marietta (1935) "Ah, Sweet Mystery of Life" She sings it well!

  San Francisco (1936) The church scene is even better than the final songs.
  
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  One Big Family... Except For When You Need Them

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was in, we all used to claim us jw's were "one big family" all around the world, and how we're the happiest people on the earth.

  except that isnt true is it?

  i knew that when i was in, but i've just had some news which shows me how unloving, uncaring and un-family like they really are.. my ex-best friend (he has to shun me doesn't he?

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  In my opinion, "helping" with material assistance isn't the right way to go. Anything given from cash to housing to goods will likely be considered a "blessing from Jehovah" thus reinforcing their belief that their life course is on target.

  They're not alone; remember that they each have biological family who have life experience and resources. They've been through the educational system, they have access to information from the media. In other words, this situation, while unique to them, isn't uncommon and there is help "out there" if they choose to use it.

  The better course is to allow them how to handle the matter themselves. They'll get there even if it takes a few more losses before it happens. Show them respect, let them work it out as adults; don't play "parent" and stunt their chances for real growth.
  

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  One Big Family... Except For When You Need Them

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was in, we all used to claim us jw's were "one big family" all around the world, and how we're the happiest people on the earth.

  except that isnt true is it?

  i knew that when i was in, but i've just had some news which shows me how unloving, uncaring and un-family like they really are.. my ex-best friend (he has to shun me doesn't he?

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  Can this couple file a claim against the house owner's homeowners insurance?
  
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  Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?

  by sp74bb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.

  https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.

  doing a summary:.

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  AnneB

  ...when the judicial committee starts...
  

  How many judicial committees will there be since there have to be two witnesses before the elders will proceed?

  What about the cases where there are not two witnesses? They won't make it as far as a JC.

  Elders may also be offenders. They can sit in Elder's School and learn just exactly what hurdles they need to overcome to avoid censure for their "sins." Convenient.
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  From Bob Hope Theater to JW Assembly Hall

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a remembrance of the woodland hills, ca assembly hall.

  i am enclosing a partial copy of a wikipedia article covering the purchase and subsequent sale of the facility by the jw.

  i am enclosing the link and please pay attention to the bold portion of the document.. the theater project was backed by entertainers bob hope and art linkletter, along with cy warner.. the 2865-seat facility opened july 6, 1964 with the sound of music.

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  They have the purchase year wrong on Wikipedia, I was baptized at Woodland Hills in January, 1975. I believe it was the first month the place was used as a JW facility. There was no heat, the baptism pool was outside, and January in SoCal isn't all that warm!

  I never understood why they took out the creation panels from the lobby. People used to pose for pictures there; we did it every assembly.
  
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  Do witness children have to be obediant to their disfellowshipped parent if the parents are separated.

  by agnosticnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi.i am disfellowshipped and separated from my jehovahs witness wife and i am having custody problems with my 13 year old daughter.she has been advised by her mother that she does not have to listen to me and so she dictates to me when she comes to stay.it seems i have lost any fatherly authority and my ex wife has given my daughter the ability to go against my wishes in regards to custody arrangements.having grown up a witness i understand that even though a parent is disfellowshipped the child must still obey the biblical command to be obedient to there parents.it also teaches that the wife must support her ex husband in regards to parenting.i am trying to find any watchtower/awake articles that support this.in any case i would appreciate any links ,information or advice.. regards pat..

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  AnneB

  IMO, you're wasting your time trying to find WT info to support your contention.

  You're right, of course, your daughter should be obeying you the same as if you were living in the same home and still married to her mother. Eph. 6:1 doesn't add "but not if there are legal issues."

  If her mother is telling her that she doesn't have to obey that's not something you can resolve by "reproof" from the Bible or the WT literature, it's an attitude problem and she's choosing to act contrary to WT teachings. There's nothing you can do about that no matter how much evidence you have that she's going against the laws of her God(s).

  The real solution lies with the courts. While they don't care what a particular religion teaches they do sometimes take action if the custodial parent is denying the rights of the non-custodial parent. Leave religion out of it. Make a list of solid examples where your rights were obstructed then take it to your attorney or to the family court. Make sure you leave emotion out of it along with religious beliefs; they're not going to enforce "Bible principles."

  There is another angle to this situation and that is juvenile court. Regardless of the family situation a child who refuses to obey a parent while in that parent's care and custody (as in visitation) may be deemed incorrigible. Don't let your fear of losing contact with your daughter overrule your parental rights; let your child learn that her future is in her own hands, that it's against her own best interests to let her mother try to control the whole show.
  

  Please note that in some places a 13-year old has the right to make decisions regarding acceptance of custody and visitation. If you live in one of these areas and she does not want to see or obey you she may have that right. Again IMO, if that's the case then let her reap the consequences of her own actions.

  Don't destroy your peace of mind. You seem willing to do the right thing but if you're not getting cooperation then shake the dust off your feet and let peace be, at least, with you.

  Best wishes,

  AB