I don't know what the JW's reaction would be but they would probably say that end was here!
Maddie
I don't know what the JW's reaction would be but they would probably say that end was here!
Maddie
since some of us are still active and have to hide our so-called apostate literature, i am curious about where some of you keep it.
i have to leave it at my workplace.
i manage, however, to have one book at home.
I don't hide it, just keep it in the book case.
Maddie
when we were once jehovah's witnesses - we were taught to doubt others " in the world " whose beliefs differed from ours .
we were taught to be cynical of any views that didn't harmonize or agree with the watchtower societies views .
so for years many of us were programmed like this - to keep a closed mind and think that there was only one correct way to believe things , and everybody outside that one way was full of you know what !
Mr. Flipper - I think that being cynical probably has more to do with disposition, although experiences can induce it. I have experienced many knock-backs in my life by being let down by people I thought I could trust, including the JW's but I don't think I have it in me to be cynical because I always give people the benefit of the doubt. That's not to say that I'm not not more wary now, but generally I want to trust people and believe that there is such a thing as altruism in the world.
Maddie
i'm just curious if you seriously take what people have to say about you on this forum.
do you care if they cause offense or call you namesl.
does it effect how you feel about yourself?.
A bit sensitive but try to keep it all in perspective.
Maddie
my brother called me late on the 13th to let me know that a friend of ours - who is no longer a jw - called him and said that his dad was being flown by helicopter to the hospital because he collapsed at home and had no pulse.
they took my friend's dad off life support on valentine's day and he died.
well, i was debating whether or not to go to the funeral because i have no desire to hang around a bunch of jws or set foot in a kindumb hall again.
I think their outline instruction is to spend 70% of time on JW propaganda.
Maddie
i just got off the phone with my sister-in-law.
we don't talk regularly at all - but today the discussion turned to our beliefs.
she's da'd herself 15 years ago, but she is still filled with guilt over not being able to live up to the standards of the witnesses.
When I was DF'd I still believed it was the "truth"and went through loads of fear and guilt. I thought I was a bad person and wasn't good enough to make it through the big "A". I was reinstated but left when I found out it was a mind control cult and am mostly free from the phobias that were indoctrinated into me.
Maddie
have the dates for the district conventions in britain been announced yet?.
if they have can anyone let me know the dates and places.. thanks .
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Thanks but I am not ever going again.
Maddie
lets imagine for a moment, that we were all jw's in good standing here, and saying nice things about the watchtower, i'm sure the watchtower would discorage us from coming here and posting.. why is this?.
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The WT don't like anything that they aren't in control of and can't monitor.
Maddie
this is just a post to see if anyone else feels how i do.
have any of you ever in response to a situation you didnt' feel you could control just feel like packing a bag and taking off without telling anyone where you are going and starting over completely fresh and away from your past?
it is so tempting.
Yes I have had that feeling many times in the past and still do occasionally. When I have problems or situations that I feel trapped in or very painful to deal with I just want to run away and forget about them. My way of running away used to be alcohol until it made everything much worse and added more problems, so I don't do that since I got in recovery. Running away just creates more problems and doesn't make anything go away so I try not to act on these feeling now.
Maddie
isn't smoking just as bad as "defiling the body our temple" with alcohol or drugs legal or illegal?
if i have glucoma will i be disfellowshiped if i smoke pot, since it is a doctor perscribed treatment?
those who smoke how do you justify ruining your health and finances?.
I don't smoke now because I found it really hard to stop and don't want to have to go through all that again. As posters have already said, alcohol and obesity are unhealthy and potentially fatal too so there is no consistency in just ds for smoking and not these other things - not that I think any of these things warrant ds any way.
Maddie