Once I got over the hang-ups instilled in me by being a JW I found going to church a good experience. I have found something that I never did as as a JW and it made me realise all the lies I was told.
Maddie
i went to church in my local town while the witnesses attended the perth assembly.
it was a good sermon and i actually felt very upbuilt and refreshed after listening to it.
i really thought i would of felt guilt or some negative feeling for doing this, but quite the opposite.
Once I got over the hang-ups instilled in me by being a JW I found going to church a good experience. I have found something that I never did as as a JW and it made me realise all the lies I was told.
Maddie
In many cases Jw's don't know the difference because of the mind control. Others know but don't do anything about it because they have too much to lose.
Maddie
some of you remember about 9 months ago when my son's fanatic witness mother ( my ex ) tried e-mailing him at college to preach to him of the evils of higher learning.
he stood up for himself admirably.
she left him alone - but she's back at it again like a bad dream that just won't quit !
The WT are definitely creating an atmosphere of anticipation that Armageddon is coming soon! They are very careful not to commit themselves to another false date but are whipping the r/f up by the changes they are making in the Organisation to a type of manic expectation again. It seems that they are also instilling more fear in them that Satan is getting in everywhere now (more than ever).
Good for Flipper Junior, you must be very proud of him.
Maddie
my wife accused me of putting sleeping pills in her tea so i could turn her best friend against her???
she says everyone at work is against her so one saturday she quit and went to another city {her mums}sydney to start a new life.....she found it to be alot more expensive so she asked me if she could come back.
i told her it's half her house and she can come and go as she wants.....then she asked me to buy her a plane ticket back since she blew her last paycheck {$900} on clothes and laser hair removal.
You have a very difficult situation on your hands. My brother suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and takes anti-psychotic medication which has greatly improved his illness. I suggest that she should not be allowed to go on without treatment as it will not rectify itself and probably get worse. Good luck on finding another doctor.
Maddie
the free will defence for god.
to justify the existence of evil and suffering, despite god being all powerful and benevolent, it is said that free will is of such high worth that it is worth the risk of us using it to create evil.
the argument against god.
We have free will and also have the responsibility of using it for good or for evil. It is a gift of God if used wisely
i won't go into the article as a whole because it's discussed in another topic here.
but i truly despise the way that the watchtower tries to guilt or frighten people into going out in field service.
not only will jehovah kill that person (unfairly) if you don't preach to them, but he'll kill you too!.
The WT feed and thrive on negative emotions, so typical of the cult it really is. Fear is the opposite of love and faith and the only fruit it produces is rotten.
Maddie
i was at work today and low and behold an elder from the kh i used to go to came in.
i never got to know him very well but he always struck me as pleasant and mild mannered.
the thing is i stopped going to meetings over a year ago and am now, as i have already shared, being shunned by my jw son and his wife and can't see my beautiful little grand daughter any more.. i haven't officially dissassociated and not met with any elders but don't care what action they take as they can't do any more damage to me now.
Mr. Flipper - I value your opinion, especially as I know you have made it a goal to understand the cult mind-set and reach your daughters. Thank you bruv.
Estee -
i was at work today and low and behold an elder from the kh i used to go to came in.
i never got to know him very well but he always struck me as pleasant and mild mannered.
the thing is i stopped going to meetings over a year ago and am now, as i have already shared, being shunned by my jw son and his wife and can't see my beautiful little grand daughter any more.. i haven't officially dissassociated and not met with any elders but don't care what action they take as they can't do any more damage to me now.
Thank you all for sharing back with me.
Quandry - I hope this elder does have the courage to investigate for himself. I think there are many who are too fearful to find out the truth because of what it would mean.
choosing life - It was the same for me too, I had no idea what disfellowshipping really entailed either. They are very clever at keeping that hidden until after baptism when it is too late. I wish peace for you too my friend.
Tired of the Hypocrisy - I have some terrifying looks of my own at times!
shopaholic - The eyes seem to glaze over when the cult mind control kicks in, its quite eerie when you think about it.
in the past, i was pretty idealistic.
i believe this is what attracted me to the witnesses' idea of a perfect paradise on earth.
i was a teenager when i first was contacted by them and quite disillusioned with life.
Hi choosing life - I definitely was very idealistic for most of my life. I was always attracted to "causes" that usually involved fighting for the rights of the underprivileged in society. I think it may have had something to do with my own experiences as a child and in my adult life. It got me into trouble on several occasions with the authorities.
Maddie
i was at work today and low and behold an elder from the kh i used to go to came in.
i never got to know him very well but he always struck me as pleasant and mild mannered.
the thing is i stopped going to meetings over a year ago and am now, as i have already shared, being shunned by my jw son and his wife and can't see my beautiful little grand daughter any more.. i haven't officially dissassociated and not met with any elders but don't care what action they take as they can't do any more damage to me now.
So what did it feel like to be so empowered…??
Hello Mr.M - I didn't feel empowered by this experience. I don't see it that way at all because the whole issue of the WT and the damage caused to so many people by their shunning policy and their mind control is too serious. I find your question cynical and insulting. I am very well thank you, are you though?
Gopher - I remember doing a thread about psychological torture a while ago and I think it describes shunning very well.
Dhand - It is a relief not to care what they do any more. It is so freeing.
Maddie