i'm listening on youtube the songs from the musical "the book of mormon" and i'm having a revelation: the mormons and the jw have a great lot in common!
it's a great show, i think..
My best friend got me the cd of the production and I haven't laughed so hard in a long time! The song, I Believe, reminds me of the witnesses.
"I am a Mormon. And a Mormon just believes!"
I could rewrite the lyrics quite easily to match JW doctrine...
she says she can prove i will die if i'm not in the "truth" strictly using the bible .
"wow! cool~ My name is in the Bible???"
I will remember that one! Epic...
or at least that's what my super jw ex-roommate told me when i try to have an adult discussion w her about the importance of a higher education... according to her (a girl that never finished hs because it was not necessary) she has a better education than any college graduate because the jehovah has used the borg literatrash to teach her many many important things.... she says her knowledge of the "truth" is the equivalent of my 4 years of college education..... .
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is there a cure for stupid???!!
The ignorance continues, though, because another thing you learn in college is when to walk away from a conversation that is ridiculous. So truly educated people will not engage in an illogical debate. And so, the JW mistakenly believes that their points were irrefutable. It reminds me of the old adage: Never argue with idiots; they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
A JW elder in my old congregation got into a debate at the door with the Bishop of the local Eastern Orthodox Church. I remember clearly how he brought up point after point, "educating" that pastor about his own religion. The bishop explained several times that the elder was mistaken, but it didn't stop him from droning on and on. Finally, the elder said something to the effect that "we can all agree that the Catholic Church is terribly corrupt" and the bishop just stopped trying and said "you've given me a lot to think about" and closed the door. In the elder's mind, he had gotten through to a religious leader. In that bishop's mind, the elder was so ignorant that he didn't realize that the Eastern Orthodox Church IS Catholic. I heard that story so many times at get-togethers.
They walk away from every conversation feeling as if they "won" the debate, even when they have simply been judged too ignorant to have a reasonable discussion.
NOTE: After I left the JWs, I actually met that Bishop when he came to the college to talk to our class in religious thought. He said he remembered that conversation at the door. He had ended it because he was tired of wasting his own time. He also said that he prayed that the young girl who was so quiet would wake up and find God someday.
or at least that's what my super jw ex-roommate told me when i try to have an adult discussion w her about the importance of a higher education... according to her (a girl that never finished hs because it was not necessary) she has a better education than any college graduate because the jehovah has used the borg literatrash to teach her many many important things.... she says her knowledge of the "truth" is the equivalent of my 4 years of college education..... .
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is there a cure for stupid???!!
The best thing you learn in college is how to learn. You never learn all the answers, just how to find them.
You also learn how to question the information you are given and how to respectfully disagree when there is conflicting information.
It shows the JWs ignorance of higher education when they spout off BS like this.
... with pregnant hillbilly bitches over trespassing pit bulls who terrify my grandson are not that fun.
god - where do all the idiots come from?.
jeff .
You can spray it with wasp spray. It sprays farther and straighter than pepper spray, but is just as irritating. You could probably succeed in training the dog to stay away from your property that way. I would also call animal control every time you see the dog loose. Don't kill it, though, unless it charges and you have to.
i have a jw nephew in another state who was at very the top of his high school senior class this year.
because of this, my sister (an elder's wife) had planned and sent out invitations to his "graduation party" which would be held at a community center with all the bells and whistles.
i actually bought plane tickets for my wife and i to attend this party immediately after receiving the invitation in the mail.
That sort of jealousy is just as disgusting in females.
That is a cruel way to punish your nephew. But maybe it will help him see the ridiculousness of the org and possibly take his "top of the class" intelligence off to college somewhere.
Perhaps encouraging higher education is the best course of action. It doesn't trip the apostate warning bells and will lead to more critical thinking.
i no longer go to meetings or on field service and am now fading.
as my life is changing rapidly, im reading certain things in the bible and questioning how the jws percieve them.. for example, i read through the book of john before and wondered whether the jws like to apply all of jesus words to his close disciples, to themselves.. is everything said in the gospels and other parts of the bible to be applied by jehovahs witnesses today or do they just cherry pick their favourites or those which support their doctrines?.
what about context?
I don't remember Jesus saying anything about Jehovah's Witnesses. Any words attributed to him by his followers, hundreds of years later, were meant for followers of Jesus.
I think that all words written by anyone anywhere are meant for the person who finds them meaningful. If the words speak to you, they are meant for you.
i have a presidential rolex with a diamond bezel that's a beauty and a couple of rings and that's all i ever wear.
i never liked chains or bracelets on me.. what's your best piece of jewelry?
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My most financially valuable jewelry are the diamond earrings that my first husband gave me that I am keeping, along with my engagement and wedding ring, for my sons when they get older.
But, the piece that is most valuable to me is the mother and child pendant that my dad got me when I was pregnant with my firstborn. It is a mom profile and a baby profile looking at each other carved into a blue/white stone.
LOVE IT!!
she says she can prove i will die if i'm not in the "truth" strictly using the bible .
I'm with Paralipomenon. There are several scriptures that say that only God can read hearts and that only He can judge us to be righteous or unrighteous. The best part of this defense is that it is in line with JW doctrine, even though it does not show in their policies. (df'ing, marking)
Let her say what she will, then show her those scriptures. My mom told me that she wasn't judging, that the bible condemns the evildoers. I pointed out that the bible is an inanimate object and could not condemn anyone; that she was making that call based on her interpretation of the bible. Then, I told her to relax and let God do his job, judging our heart condition, and just focus on her own salvation. Finish off by asking her if it feels less stressful to lay her burden (of judging you worthy of death) on Jehovah. My mom said yes...
This is a much easier approach than trying to discredit her religion or her holy book. Good luck!
