All the people I knew that were "partakers" were a little MORE mentally off then the rest of us.
Just look at some of the posters on this thread that claim to be "partakers" and you will know what I mean.
LD
what made you think you were supposed to drink the wine and eat the bread?
if you left the org, did you still feel like you were going to heaven?.
All the people I knew that were "partakers" were a little MORE mentally off then the rest of us.
Just look at some of the posters on this thread that claim to be "partakers" and you will know what I mean.
LD
i can't remember how to insert this youtube video directly into the post.. if anyone else wants to have a try i'd appreciate it.
this video is a list of rules that palmarian's have to follow many of the rules ring bells of the jw cult check it out.. one of my employees belongs he always wears long sleeve turtle necks to be safe and he won't even talk to me unless it's about business.
two of his children work for me also and they won't even make eye contact with me.. and i thought the borg was wierd.
I can't remember how to insert this YouTube video directly into the post.
If anyone else wants to have a try I'd appreciate it
This video is a list of rules that Palmarian's have to follow many of the rules ring bells of the JW cult check it out.
one of my employees belongs he always wears long sleeve turtle necks to be safe and he won't even talk to me unless it's about business. Two of his children work for me also and they won't even make eye contact with me.
And I thought the bORG was wierd
came accross this piece from the 1887 watchtower tonight.... have a read... you can see russell criticising the protestants for how they are not allowed to teach anything that is not sanctioned by the church.. sounds mighty familier...and can be mirrored right back at the wt.. watchtower 1887. .
page 923 april 1887 (caps and italics russells and the wt).
nor should we ignore the assistance of any of god's children in seeking an understanding of the scriptures, but we should give attention to them only so far and so long, as they teach and explain the bible, in harmony with the bible.
I'm thinking that it's impossible for any religion to not be hypocritical in some way because God seems to be hypocritical.
I hope I don't have to go and get a butt enhancement surgery so women will check me out. LOL
LD
i remember a 'sister' coming up to me and telling me off for being on the atkins diet, as it was satanic and designed by satan.. chukky.
Just before I left, I had another elder (I was also an elder) tell me that perhaps I studied too much and that's why I had problems with the blood issue. He then told me that the brothers in Brooklyn were much more adept at study of the Bible and I should trust them instead of doing my own study.
LD
a quote from "crisis of conscience".
don't be afraid to read it.. .
whatever the initial distress - a distress that sometimes follows the demenaing experience of being interogated by men who, in effect strip one of dignity, make the weight of their authority felt, and presume to judge adversely one's standing with god - however torn one may feel inside, afterward there is a distinct feeling of relief, of peace.
mentallyfree:
Thanx, I copied and pasted to my computer your excellent series of questions and someday I hope to show it perhaps to my Daughter in law.
LD
i went into my favorite cafe this afternoon for lunch and saw a husband and wife that go to the congregation i used to go to.
the woman is a pioneer and has been for years and her husband is an elder who i've talked to a couple of times since i stopped going to meetings 3 years ago but i have not talked to her in 3 years.. when i got my lunch, i looked up and noticed them sitting by the window so i went over to them and said hello.
he said hi but when i said hello to the woman she just kinda looked at me.
i went into my favorite cafe this afternoon for lunch and saw a husband and wife that go to the congregation i used to go to.
the woman is a pioneer and has been for years and her husband is an elder who i've talked to a couple of times since i stopped going to meetings 3 years ago but i have not talked to her in 3 years.. when i got my lunch, i looked up and noticed them sitting by the window so i went over to them and said hello.
he said hi but when i said hello to the woman she just kinda looked at me.
I went into my favorite cafe this afternoon for lunch and saw a husband and wife that go to the congregation I used to go to. The woman is a pioneer and has been for years and her husband is an elder who I've talked to a couple of times since I stopped going to meetings 3 years ago but I have not talked to her in 3 years.
When I got my lunch, I looked up and noticed them sitting by the window so I went over to them and said hello. He said Hi but when I said hello to the woman she just kinda looked at me.
As they started to leave she faced me and said she had to tell me that she was really angry at me and she was sorry but she just was. I asked her why she was angry and she told me because I've changed and I'm a different person now. Then she told me that I am rude, and self centered. I think she said a few other negative things but I can't remember what they were now.
It surprised me because I haven't talked to her since I stopped all activity with the bORG. I asked her how I have been rude and she couldn't really pinpoint anything specific I mean how could she, I haven't seen or talked to her. I told her I was sorry if my actions have upset her and then told her if I seem rude to please tell me so I can make adjustments.
I now realize that there must be a lot of gossip going on in the congregation where we went, after all we were one of the pillars in the church or at least that's what we've been told.
She being a pioneer must pick up on this gossip and then because she is a very uptight pioneer she takes it all serious and figures it must be true.
Then I thought about the accusation of me being self centered I told her that quite possibly that perception has been partially my fault because whenever I do see some of the witnesses around town I'm always quick to demonstrate the joy I have in life.
So I figure maybe talking about my granddaughter or about a vacation I went on or any other fun thing I am doing brands me as a pleasure seeking, self centered ass hole.
Her husband by the way did not say much. I asked him if he thought I was rude and he hedged on answering because he may have not wanted to disagree with what his wife said, I understand that but I was hoping because I had recently talked to him he might be upfront with me. He managed to get out of answering me so I continued the discussion with his wife.
She insinuated that I used to help people and that now I no longer do so. I told her I didn't feel it necessary to list my good works to people when I meet up with them at a store or in a coffee shop but if she wanted me to I would tell her the good works I have been doing. She shook her head so I dropped the subject.
One thing I did do at that point because I could see how nervous she was, I commended the passion she has for her beliefs and told her that she has been the only person in the congregation who has actually faced me and told me of her displeasure in my leaving the church. I told her I admired her courage and was glad she spoke up to me. I then asked her if I had been rude through this whole conversation she said no. At that point I wanted to eat my lunch so I gave her a hug and shook the gentlemen's hand and said goodbye
That's the last time I hope I ever see either of them.
I hate what this religion does to people. It makes them judgmental and afraid and personally limited.
LD
guys... can you believe this???
this is a current article available on the "official watchtower web site"!!!.
"do the jehovah's witnesses believe that their religion is the only true one??
It looks like the legal department has moved in with the writing department. Maybe this is what the bORG would call seasoned with salt.
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/8057201/.
I totally agree with you JT.
The issue is religious freedom and if the employer fired this woman for not wearing a Santa hat while wrapping Christmas presents then the employer is in the wrong. All facts will be presented in a court before a judge and the law should be upheld.
As an employer myself, I think it would be nice for any prospective employee to tell me up front what their religious restrictions are regarding their job. If this woman hired in to wrap Christmas gifts, it would have been nice if she would have told her employer what she was willing to do and what she would not do in this job capacity.
If she was hired to do something else in the dept. store and was transferred to gift wrapping then some preliminary communication would have been nice on both parties parts.
It will all come out in the court.
LD