Posts by ldrnomo

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WTWizard....I am curious

by still thinking in

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i am curious to know what sent you down the path of your current belief.. personally, i find i am going away from belief altogether...but you seem convinced that satan is the true god worth worshipping.. what was the turning point for you?

did it begin with sheer dislike for the jehovah god...that is uderstandable when you read the ot.

was it somthing about jesus?

ldrnomo

ST said: Yeah, I know what you mean crazyblondeb ....but I like to know why people believe what they do...you never know...I might learn something...LOL

I'm with you on that thought. I had put my thinking on hiatus for two and a half decades because of the mind control the Watchtower infuses in they're members. I celebrate the freedom to think whatever I want, without guilt, without shame, and without fear.

I love this forum because it gives me the platform to release the mind controlled thoughts that "my keepers" (for over two and a half decades) imposed upon me through, peer pressure, brain washing (they even admit to that) word manipulation and mental/emotional manipulation.

WT Wiz, great thoughts on satan, god and all the rest of the characters in this play. Is it the age of aquarius that is waking us up or is it the fact that humans can and do manipulate the dirt we come from and we make and do with it anything we want. My next statement was going to be "within the laws of physical science" but I then realized that, "the laws of physical science" may not be as strong a barrior as we logically think. With that in mind, for whatever reason, when life is backed up against the wall we as humans simply manipulate the dirt to come up with whatever solution is needed to remain "on going".

We have so much knowledge that is now wide spread which makes me think of the story of babel. Our knowledge base is better pooled in one place than it has ever been and many more humans have access to that knowledge than has ever been. Age of aquarius? could be. Or maybe it is just human ingenuity. Maybe, we have no bounds uh I think that's called imagination. And what better to take that away than religion. Are we as humans getting back our imagination? Ignorance and fear have supressed it. Einstein once said, "imagination is more important than knowledge". They go hand in hand. What we imagine we can do with only one constraint, knowledge. As our knowledge base grows, and it's probably doing that at a firestorm rate by now, we will be able to fullfil the things we imagine (science fiction comes to mind). We imagine, and then we accomplish. We have become master manipulators of dirt and because of that we have gotten into a lot of trouble because we can make beneficial and we can make harmful things with dirt. Will that change? Again, when our backs are up against the wall it will change. We will desinigrate the wall and continue to run from the errors we've made in the past. Will we always be running from our errors?

Aquarius? Maybe, or maybe just survival.

long for me I know and the misspelled words are due to an in-oporitive spell check since switching to chrome.

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I'm curious...........how many of you are going out in Field Service tomorrow? I'm serious.

by La Falta Habitacion Por Sr Hor-Hey!! in

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just wondering.

i'm going out in the morning, but i'm wondering who else here in undercover apostate land will be meeting up with their own respective groups for theocratic activity tomorrow.

for those of you going, will you be preparing your presentations tonight?.

ldrnomo

I planned on going out but then I decided that I might have to take a SH*T at just about that time so first things first.

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How can everything weve learned be a lie?

by bats in the belfry in

a reporter tracks down the remnants of harold campings apocalyptic movement and finds out you dont have to be crazy to believe something nuts.. .

an excerpt of his write-up:.

another engineer i came to know had spent most of his retirement savings, well over a half-million dollars, taking out full-page newspaper ads and buying an rv that he had custom-painted with doomsday warnings.

ldrnomo

Great article, it helped explain what I went through but:

Did I miss something?

I did not see any mention of Jdubs or their beliefs in the article or any of the comments even though Miller was mentioned.

the bORG is so puny in the eyes of the world that much of what they do and believe go's without notice to the world

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Has anyone seen this flick?

by AK - Jeff in

i found it interesting - the twist at the end was unsuspected and thought provoking:.

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ldrnomo

Just watched the trailer, it looks interesting.

I think I'll rent it

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Free Will in Paradise Earth

by FaithfulBrother in

i was raised in a witness family but never got baptized.

i have been studying with an extended family member for a while after 20+ years of being away from the kingdom hall.

i asked them about the paradise earth after armageddon and if we will become robots if we survive.

ldrnomo

The understanding when I stopped going, 4 years ago was:

When paradise is established there will be a thousand years of life without Satan and his demons, they will be abyssed (I don't think that's a word in the dictionary but it made sense to me). Then Satan and his boys will be released from the abyss for one last attempt at tempting humans. Satan and the boys will be somewhat successful because the ones retaken by Satan will number as the grains of sand. Then, Satan, his boys, and all those tempted will be destroyed by God. The rest, still alive, have free will but without the wicked temptations. They will be educated about what just happened, God's sovereignty and all that, and they will just toe the line evidently (to use a phrase the bORG often uses in their propaganda) because they know if they don't they will be ZAPPED.

So the question

Is it really free will if they know the consequence of their decision is total annihilation?

To what extent is free will really free?

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The Bothersome Man

by usualusername in

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synopsis.

forty-year-old andreas arrives in a strange city with no memory of how he got there.

he is presented with a job, an apartment - even a wife.

ldrnomo

It's on Netflix and it can be streamed.

Sounds interesting

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6/15 WT - WT Society can Run it's Business - but JW's Can't Have their Own

by flipper in

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in the typical do as we say , not as we do type mentality - the wt society puts forth in this current wt study article ( jw's only wt ) - that it's not " advisable " or " reasonable " for jehovah's witnesses to seek entering their own business ventures , or further themselves by getting a college education, or even have a career - due to the imminent coming of the alleged " end of the system " or alleged " paradise " .

the guilt and control used here is ridiculous.

in the article titled , " why put jehovah's service first ?

ldrnomo

because who is going to pay for all the CO's and DO's and BO's and ZO's if all the masses go into minimum wage work and can't take care of themselves,

much less their organization!?

There will always be some of them who will ignore the crap and do what they want despite what the GB says. They will then be guilted into providing for all the fools who did the bORG's bidding and then they will all just eek their way through life claiming that Jehovah is providing just what they need and the wealthier brothers are so generous and loving and they take care of them and yada yada yada

Isn't this just amazing bullshit in fact now I think the bORG is spreading the GB's shit on their WT and AW rags in addition to bullshit. Makes it more from God that way.

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It must be God's organization because ...

by biometrics in

how many times have you heard a jw say something along the lines of "this must be god's organization because of [insert reason here]".

most of those reasons could equally apply to almost any organization on earth, including secular businesses.. the most recent one i heard was from an elder trying to convince someone why the watchtower is god's organization.

his reason was because "it [the watchtower] wouldn't have lasted this long without god's backing".

ldrnomo

It's just as unbelievable as he is

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If you knew that a murder was going to take place......

by Sour Grapes in

if you knew that a murder would take place and did.

nothing to stop it would you share some responsibility?.

if you knew that your neighbor was going to be robbed.