Great arguments, I think I might actually send this to my parents even though we're on a "don't ask don't tell" policy about my rejection of the WT creed.
I don't believe in the divine inspiration of the Bible but the blood argument is impossible to defend even using the scriptures.
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WT SOCIETY IS WRONG ON BLOOD
by Vinny instill not sure the jw's are wrong on blood?.
still not sure the jw's are wrong on blood?
still not sure the jw's are wrong on blood?
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The Problem with Atheism by Sam Harris
by nvrgnbk inthe problem with atheism(this is an edited transcript of a talk given at the atheist alliance conference in washington d.c. on september 28th, 2007).
to begin, id like to take a moment to acknowledge just how strange it is that a meeting like this is even necessary.
the year is 2007, and we have all taken time out of our busy lives, and many of us have traveled considerable distance, so that we can strategize about how best to live in a world in which most people believe in an imaginary god.
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I've seen videos of four-year-old muslim kids repeating by rote messages of vile hatred for Jews, but in your view this should be a protected right because it's in the Quran?
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The Problem with Atheism by Sam Harris
by nvrgnbk inthe problem with atheism(this is an edited transcript of a talk given at the atheist alliance conference in washington d.c. on september 28th, 2007).
to begin, id like to take a moment to acknowledge just how strange it is that a meeting like this is even necessary.
the year is 2007, and we have all taken time out of our busy lives, and many of us have traveled considerable distance, so that we can strategize about how best to live in a world in which most people believe in an imaginary god.
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I've avoided the atheism moniker so far precisely because of all the associated baggage.
My big beef is with believers who advocate one belief system over another. Believe what you want but DO NOT persist in attempting to influence me or other people into accepting your view, or even bitching about what you do or do not consider acceptable. Believe what you want but shut the hell up.
Religion isn't bad, it's forcing your religious views on others that is evil. This includes your children, BTW. They should be allowed to investigate as many belief systems as they want and settle on whichever one they choose. -
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MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc...
by avishai inanyone get sucked in?
i always thought it was ironic how often they preached against this sort of thing from the platform, then were out in the parking lot trying to sell it to you.
tons of elders defrauding folks this way..
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Here's a list of some of the MLM schemes I've encountered/been pressured to join during my life as a witness:
- Trimline (I'd completely forgotten about this one until reading this thread)
- Melaleuca
- Herbalife
- Mary Kay
- ACN
- Tupperware
- Usana
- Electrolux
- Tristar
- Aloette
- those stupid candle parties
- I forget the name of this next one but it had something to do with placing magnets under your mattress
and not really MLM but insidious nonetheless, homeopathic remedies. My mother got duped into this and believes 110% that it's real. -
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There are way bigger problems with the biblical flood myth than just beetles. Chief among them is geographical distribution of species and the accompanying fossil records that show those species were there for a long time.
Did god cause all marsupials to traipse over to the middle east to get on an ark and then trek back to Australia after it was all said and done? What about Galapagos tortoises? Sloths?
Or how about the incredibly vast amount of geological evidence against a global flood. And let's not forget that the very laws of physics were supposedly altered 4,000 years ago when god "created" the rainbow by making water droplets refract light for the first time.
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BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?
by Black Man ini often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.
while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).
a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.
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Princess - yep, that's the one.
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BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?
by Black Man ini often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.
while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).
a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.
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Jack Jones?
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The Pastafarians Strike Again -- Florida ID proponents back down!
by parakeet inthe flying spaghetti monster forced the polk county school board members to run for cover when they attempted to introduce intelligent design into the science curriculum.
here's the link (sorry, i can't create a direct link.
maybe another poster can help.
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Yea and he sayeth unto thee "All shall find refuge in the shadow of MY holy meatballs".
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Favorite Storytelling Musicians - Harry Chapin, Jim Croce - Who's yours?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini love john lennon, simon and garfunkle, harry chapin, jim croce and many more.
i love songs that make you imagine real people with real lives.. taxi - harry chapin(genius).
dedicated to noni1974 our forum cabbie .
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"Mind" Blowing Article on Watchtower Indoctrination! MUST READ!
by What-A-Coincidence inthe author (from australia) makes some great points.. http://www.noelbatten.com/watchtower.pdf.
46 pages long.
some excerpts:.
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marmot
The article completely lost me when he started talking about left-brain/right-brain activity. Any first-year psychology student can tell you that such theories are junk science.
True there is a form of thought control and behavior modification that takes place in the Jehovah's Witnesses cult, but the author of that article is barking up the wrong tree.