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  Money changers in the temple, much?

  by marmot in

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  2. friends

  i'm still on an old mailing list and got this recently "encouraging" me to make the pilgrimmage to mecca...i mean...bethel.

  kinda sad really.

  i have nothing against the people who run the business, they're just trying to make a buck, but i'm soooo glad i'm out of that boring cult.. did you see the governing body's invitation?

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  I'm still on an old mailing list and got this recently "encouraging" me to make the pilgrimmage to Mecca...I mean...Bethel. Kinda sad really. I have nothing against the people who run the business, they're just trying to make a buck, but I'm soooo glad I'm out of that boring cult.

  Did you see the Governing Body's invitation? Or the video Caleb and Sophia Visit Bethel Or JW Broadcasting - December 2014 All encourage us to visit Bethel. Whether you book your trip with our travel agency or another travel agency* or you get there on your own, may we encourage you to accept the Governing Body's warm invitation to visit the Bethel complexes. If you wish, we can help you create your own "marvelous memories." WHAT TO EXPECT 1) Video: What to Expect 2) Hands on classroom style training on the bus: video: Leveraging Technology to Advance Kingdom Interests - bring your iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch 3) Deluxe 2013 Wi-fi equipped bus 4) and much more... DOWNLOAD the latest itinerary with departure dates and prices as follows: - go to www.BethelToursPLUS.com - click on LEARN MORE - at the bottom of the new page download the ENGLISH or FRANÇAIS itinerary - departure dates are on page two of the itinerary, left column - as Warwick visits become available, this itinerary will be updated ARE CHILDREN & TEENAGERS WELCOME? Absolutely! Our tours are designed for the young, and those that have been young for some time. SPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS FOR MEN'S SUITS "The money I saved on these suits paid for our trip." So said a circuit overseer in one of our recent groups. It is not uncommon to see brothers purchase between 3 to 7 suits each. Quality brand name suits starting at $79 . We have made these special arrangements for our brothers. We visit a 200 store factory outlet mall across from the hotel on Saturday night between 7 and 9 PM. A suit store brings in extra sales staff and two tailors for our bus group. Your suits are fitted, hemmed and ready to pick up before the bus departs back to the hotel at 9 PM . If the tailors run out of time, the store will deliver them to your hotel the next day. You can even wear one of them for your visit to Patterson on Monday. For our sisters - you will probably find something you like in the other 199 stores. COUNT THE COSTS Please return to the itinerary you just downloaded. Read the box on the top right of page 1. Review the highlights of the trip and click on the links to each planned event. Please take note of the minimum per person cash contributions and fees not included in the price. A non-refundable deposit of $200 per person will secure your seat(s); the balance is due 60 days prior to the departure date. Complete payment options and details are in the itinerary. Cancellation insurance can be added to your reservation and should be purchased within 48 hours of the deposit date. (see below)
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  The best way to debate JW's without being labeled an apostate

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys!

  here's what i found to be the best way (for me at least) to debate jw's without earning the laber of apostate.

  this is mostly valid when debating jw's that don't know you personally, but it could help with those that do too.

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  Debating is pointless because they just curl up into a defensive ball impervious to logic. Best to go for the jugular right off the bat and leave them shell-shocked and running for the hills.

  First ask them to explain the calculation required to reach 1914, then ask them to read Matthew 24:34 and ask them to define a generation. Grab a cold beverage and watch them stammer their way into saying they'll get back to you.
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  About the ten plagues in Egypt

  by runForever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.

  but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.

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  Not according to mister Cold Steel! No indeed, there is oodles of the "best" evidence available on the History Channel made by none other than acclaimed archaeologist and peer-reviewed scientist James Cameron. In fact there's 90 minutes worth of evidence with flashy CGI and clips from Indiana Jones, too! CGI means it HAS to be true.

  Sooooo much more reliable and trustworthy than those elitist dusty academic journals. They're just the mouthpiece of Satan anyway.
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  About the ten plagues in Egypt

  by runForever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.

  but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.

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  "First, I don't care what the biblical scholars believe or not."

  Says it all.

  Also, that History Channel infomercial by James Cameron was torn to shreds by anyone with a modicum of education. Of course, this serves only to reinforce your position because you see education as a threat to your belief system.
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  About the ten plagues in Egypt

  by runForever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.

  but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.

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  Some food for thought from Wikipedia:

  The consensus among biblical scholars today is that there was never any exodus of the proportions described in the Bible. [ 15 ] According to Exodus 12:37–38, the Israelites numbered "about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children," plus many non-Israelites and livestock. [ 16 ] Numbers 1:46 gives a more precise total of 603,550 men aged 20 and up. [ 17 ] The 600,000, plus wives, children, the elderly, and the "mixed multitude" of non-Israelites would have numbered some 2 million people, [ 18 ] compared with an entire Egyptian population in 1250 BCE of around 3 to 3.5 million. [ 19 ] Marching ten abreast, and without accounting for livestock, they would have formed a line 150 miles long. [ 20 ] No evidence has been found that indicates Egypt ever suffered such a demographic and economic catastrophe or that the Sinai desert ever hosted (or could have hosted) these millions of people and their herds. [ 21 ]
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  About the ten plagues in Egypt

  by runForever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.

  but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.

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  I challenge Cold Steel to present a SINGLE shred of archeological evidence pointing to a group of hundreds of thousands of wanderers spending decades camped in the Sinai desert. Go ahead, I'll make popcorn while I'm waiting.
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  "The Friends"

  by FeelingFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.

  never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.

  is it just used in america?.

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  My old-timer Uncle in Brooklyn refers to them as "the friends" and yeah, it sounds creepy/culty as can be.
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  Sunday NY Times: How ISIS drives Muslims from Islam.

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  2. current

  230 comments.

  sundayreview | op-ed columnist.

  how isis drives muslims from islam.

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  Warms the heart.
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  Your favourite dog breed ...?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. family

  in an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.

  huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.

  this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.

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  DACHSHUNDS!!!!! I love their clownish personalities and the fact that they snuggle under the covers with you at night.

  Followed by Labradors. Had a number fo them growing up and they're great dogs but we live in an apartment so we can't have a big dog at the moment. :(
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  Dungeons and Dragons, Magic: The Gathering and all the stuff you weren't allowed to play as a JW

  by marmot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  by nature i'm a total geek.

  i read the lord of the rings for the first time in grade 3 and i would probably have had a 20-sided die hung around my neck if it weren't for the silly superstitious restrictions against playing rpgs among jws.

  if anything they should encourage role playing games among the youth because it'll keep them virgins forever.

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  BTW, did any of you see last week's South Park episode, "C*ck Magic?" I haven't laughed so hard in a long time.