Well, they did the "highlights from the book of..." portion on the song of solomon a few months back on the TMS. It completely glossed over the blatant sexuality of the book and instead turned everything into spiritual applications.
Was very boring.
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WT study and talk about sex..
by chappy indoes anyone remember any kind of wt study or talk based on the song of soloman?
if so, how'd it go?.
chappy.
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Help needed: Killing the 'The light gets brighter' argument?
by jah1914 inso after the revelation study last night where the paragraph was talking about how russell's interpertation of revelation basically didn't work and got discarded, my wife comments with the same old,"the light gets brigther, that's why i respect fds because at least they will change when they figure out something is wrong.
" (insert vomit here) afterwards, me and the book study conductor(i have to at least give him credit, he is someone i can talk to freely about my questions and he has not,as of yet, turned me in) got into a discussion of what 'the light gets brighter' really means.
he basically says so the brothers have made changes, so what?
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What kind of ****ed-up teacher lets his students study WRONG examples?
The only logic to that line of reasoning is if the teacher wanted to demonstrate how NOT to do something, in which case he would HIGHLIGHT the errors made and carefully examine them to teach the rest of the class how to do it correctly. Last time I checked the Faithful Slave had a habit of minimizing errors and playing revisionist historian. -
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JERK
by free2beme inin this world there is a title, a title that makes people upset to hear mentioned.
yet more often then not, it simply fits.
the title is jerk, or basically someone that is a complete ass and not someone who is being nice or a good person.
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See, asshole I have no problem with. I find it also carries a lot more weight behind it when you're trying to convey the thought "you're REALLY not a nice person."
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JERK
by free2beme inin this world there is a title, a title that makes people upset to hear mentioned.
yet more often then not, it simply fits.
the title is jerk, or basically someone that is a complete ass and not someone who is being nice or a good person.
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marmot
I really REALLY hate that term because it was thrown at us kids so much when I was growing up. My dad always used to call us that and I find it's one of the most hurtful things you can say to me now.
In hindsight I'm able to recognize that my father, flawed as he was, was simply trying to break a cycle of abuse that started when he was a kid, so instead of using belts he used angry, sarcastic, hurtful words.
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Interesting old article from Time magazine re:1975
by marmot indon't know if this has ever been discussed on here.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901074-1,00.html .
july 18, 1969 .
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What's that in the article about 1928? I thought Rutherford was all gung-ho over 1925?
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Bets on when the UN prophecy will be dropped?
by marmot innow that i'm free to bet, i figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the united nations turning on worldwide religion.
there is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped.
not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the wt's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks.
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About the kingdom news, it was supposed to kick-start the great tribulation (at least in the congregation where I was at the time).
The elder who unveiled it on stage was practically busting at the seams with excitement saying the end was so near that he could smell it.
And what did it actually accomplish? Out of how many zillions were distributed a few hundred people wrote in asking for copies of the Bible Teach book and there were a couple of experiences about people confronting annoyed clergy. Whoop-de-freakin-doo. -
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Studying To Save Lives Again!
by KnowlegeSeeker_UK ini have served as a jw since 1986, im now nearly 30 yrs old.
i pioneered, i served at bethel then i read the bible............. oh !
hang on..... something doesnt seem right.
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Hi, nice to meet someone else who's trying to figure things out.
My advice is to take it slow. Things are going to be very overwhelming for a long while, give yourself lots of time to start opening up outside of the watchtower society.
Another thing you're going to have to reconcile is your faith. You say you thirst for knowledge but I'm warning you that you might discover things that put into question your very purpose in life.
Personally, that made me an atheist but your own discoveries will lead you to your own conclusions.
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Bets on when the UN prophecy will be dropped?
by marmot innow that i'm free to bet, i figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the united nations turning on worldwide religion.
there is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped.
not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the wt's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks.
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Now that I'm free to bet, I figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the Watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the United Nations turning on worldwide religion.
There is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped. Not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the WT's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks. They've already admitted that Jesus' "composite sign" has been going for almost a century and the 1914 generation doctrine has been effectively neutered. It must also sting that their last Kingdom News on false religion (that also had a nice color picture of the wild beast, but no explanation) fizzled so spectacularly.
It's quite telling that the witnesses aren't encouraged to use this prediction in the field ministry. It seems like it would be a surefire way to get people to convert, just tell them to watch for when the UN turns on religion and then come join. Fact is, the society doesn't emphasize it because it doesn't want to look like a bunch of dumbasses when the governing body changes its tune. You have to admit you'd look like a complete crackpot trying to tell the masses that the inept, corrupt and hopelessly bureaucratic United Nations is going to destroy organized religion and bring about the end of the world. That's why that little tidbit is only saved for the bookstudy, which a large proportion of dubs miss anyway.
One only has to examine the history of the Watchtower to see that every single one of their big detailed predictions bombed. Even 1914 had to be amended after the fact (nearly three decades later) to make it a "spiritual fulfillment". After all, this prophecy was first put forward in the early 60s back when the UN was still young and idealistic, unlike today's international muppet show.
I have $5 on them getting a flash of light within the next ten years and telling us that the events in Revelation have already happened, on a spiritual level.
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What is with the JW hate towards the depressed?
by 5go inwhy do they treat the like the have sinned a great sin ( oh wait i might of answered it doh!
) when they are just down a bit..
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All I know is that when I was hospitalized for my first suicide attempt the only visitors I got were my parents.
The most acknowledgment I ever got was when I went to my first meeting after getting out and one of the elders came up and said "Hey *******, nice to see you! You know, I just found out about what you were in the hospital for. Yeaaaaaaah. (awkward silence as he stares off to the left) Well it's great to see you!"
Honestly, I think they're just scared to confront it. I mean, how could you be unhappy, we're Jehovah's happy people right!? -
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So...I got duped today!
by lovelylil ini am one of those people who always gives money to those who ask me on the street.
the reason is because there was a time when i was a kid that my siblings and i needed to beg on the street for food money because mom and dad were both addicts.. anyway, i was on my way into walmart and a lady stopped me and asked if i could give her a few dollars ($5 to be exact) so that she could pick up a prescription for some medicine.
she explained that she and her kids have been sick with bronchitis and although the kids were better she was not and had run out of money until her check came on the first of the month.. i can also sympethize with having to wait for government checks to buy what you need having grown up on state welfare programs and i reasoned that $5 is nothing for me and my husband because combined we bring in over six figures a year income.
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I've been scammed many times because I'm too trusting and I have a big heart. To cut down on outright fabrications, though, I'll usually offer to help them do whatever it is they need to do. The phonies usually back down after this.
For example, if they're asking for change to call a cab because their car broke down I'll offer to give them a lift (I've yet to get taken up on this one). If they're begging for change to get something to eat then I'll bring them into a burger king or whatever and get them whatever they want.
I won't give them money for alcohol or drugs, though. I point them towards crisis centers or outreach programs instead.