Posts by marmot

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What triggered your doubts / awakening?

by Tornintwo in

i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

marmot

For me it was the global deluge. I simply could not believe in the bible anymore after learning that such a cataclysm never happened.

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

marmot

Neat Blue Dog, how is 8-10,000 B.C. even *remotely* close to the time of the biblical flood? If you go by the Bible's laughable chronology the flood happened around 2400 B.C.

Have you even read the book you profess to believe in?

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

marmot

Neat Blue Dog, there is evidence of human civilization dating back to 10,000 to 8,000 B.C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

marmot

I love how they reference the "wild beast(TM)" without mentioning what the wild beast is according to their whack-a-doo interpretation.

Can you imagine the headlines if they unambiguously stated in print that the UN is going to turn on organized religion? Instead, they have to let the reader go digging in the archives to find out what the wild beast is.

They're clearly embarassed by this teaching.

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Just found out about a pedophile elder in my old Cong.

by marmot in

http://www.hebdosregionaux.ca/monteregie/2007/11/24/simonin-purgera-sa-peine-dans-la-communaute.

i could only find the article in french, but you can use google translate.

i remember this guy vividly and it churns my stomach to think of what he did to that poor girl.

marmot

http://www.hebdosregionaux.ca/monteregie/2007/11/24/simonin-purgera-sa-peine-dans-la-communaute

I could only find the article in French, but you can use google translate. I remember this guy vividly and it churns my stomach to think of what he did to that poor girl. She's the same age as my little sister and I cannot imagine what I would do if it had happened to her. The fact that he abused her in the kingdom hall itself also blows my mind. The creep had no shame.

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Dating After Leaving?

by Garrett in

hey guys,.

this is going to be a topic of a different nature.

so, while i am not looking to date at the current moment since i'm still trying to figure out who i am and what i want life, i do want to start dating in the near future.. my issue is that i've been in for almost all my life and it's left a big hole when it comes to my romantic life.. i was wondering, after leaving, did any of you date?

marmot

I met my fiancee on eharmony and she turned out to be an ex-jw to boot! I know we're not a typical couple but we must have been matched perfectly because we've had all of ONE argument in the last six years.

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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

by The Laser Viking in

i am 6th generation.

i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

marmot

Ask him to explain "overlapping generations" using only the bible.

JWs: the original anti-vaxxers

by marmot in

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/vaccination.html.

anyone not living under a rock has certainly heard of this ridiculous trend to not vaccinate children for various pseudoscientific bull**** reasons but not everyone knows that jehovah's witnesses used to be at the forefront of the movement.

some of the quotes in the link i posted above are completely batsh** crazy, i encourage newbies to have a read through..

marmot

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/vaccination.html

Anyone not living under a rock has certainly heard of this ridiculous trend to not vaccinate children for various pseudoscientific bull**** reasons but not everyone knows that Jehovah's Witnesses used to be at the forefront of the movement. Some of the quotes in the link I posted above are completely batsh** crazy, I encourage newbies to have a read through.

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How do flood apologists explain these?

by marmot in

spear points dating to thousands of years before the flood (or even adam's alleged creation, for that matter) found preserved in situ among mammoth bones in naco, arizona.. or the 14,000 year-old footprint of a child at a mammoth hunting camp unearthed in a bog in monte verde, chile:.

the kicker is that this isn't even the oldest evidence for human settlement of the americas.

since the wt loves to trot out frozen mammoth carcasses as "proof" that mammoths died in the flood, who were these mammoth eaters in north america?

marmot

I used to think that way too, sort of like if god was a baker he didn't magically make a fully formed loaf of bread out of thin air but used time, heat and ingredients.

Of course, once you go down this path you have to completely dismiss the bible as being the word of god because man didn't magically appear on earth fully formed just 6,000 years ago.

So you either join another equally silly religion or you become an unaffiliated deist or (like me) you join the dreaded atheist camp.

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How do flood apologists explain these?

by marmot in

spear points dating to thousands of years before the flood (or even adam's alleged creation, for that matter) found preserved in situ among mammoth bones in naco, arizona.. or the 14,000 year-old footprint of a child at a mammoth hunting camp unearthed in a bog in monte verde, chile:.

the kicker is that this isn't even the oldest evidence for human settlement of the americas.

since the wt loves to trot out frozen mammoth carcasses as "proof" that mammoths died in the flood, who were these mammoth eaters in north america?

marmot

The problem you radiocarbon deniers run into is that multiple dating methods are used to determine the age of these sites, such as uranium dating and stratigraphy and they all point to the same age.