Posts by REBORNAGAIN

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REGRETS?

by REBORNAGAIN in

i was among the jw's for 30 whole years.

left them in 1999 and it was the best thing i ever did.

i can't believe how much i was deprived of, for that matter, all jw's.

REGRETS?

by REBORNAGAIN in

i was among the jw's for 30 whole years.

left them in 1999 and it was the best thing i ever did.

i can't believe how much i was deprived of, for that matter, all jw's.

Boy, the JW's have a lot to learn. When someone did something wrong, as you know, the Elders NEVER revealed what was going on. All they ever said was, "....for conduct unbecoming a Christian" I have learned in the other churches that being made aware of what a persons problem is, gives everyone the opportunity to pray on their behalf for exactly what their problem is. The Four Square Church I attended recently, nobody looked down at their members because someone may have started smoking or drinking again. It was announced in a small study group that so and so started up on this habit and needs our prayers and then we all held hands and prayed on this persons behalf. There was no hiding and covering up the facts. Boy, how many times did I think the worse about someone who got DF? Of course when I got DF, everyone thought the worse of me no doubt. But if they REALLY knew why, they'd flip. But the majority just assumed the worse and wouldn't even let me explain. Fine....they can just st*** it.

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REGRETS?

by REBORNAGAIN in

i was among the jw's for 30 whole years.

left them in 1999 and it was the best thing i ever did.

i can't believe how much i was deprived of, for that matter, all jw's.

REBORNAGAIN

All that time wasted? Tell me about it. A BIG waste. But I look at the positive side, I still have a never-ending future whether in Heaven, The Other Side or wherever. A future where I can do exactly what God had planned for me all along.

Btw, what city do you live in? I'm up in Bellingham.

LINDA

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REGRETS?

by REBORNAGAIN in

i was among the jw's for 30 whole years.

left them in 1999 and it was the best thing i ever did.

i can't believe how much i was deprived of, for that matter, all jw's.

REBORNAGAIN

Your comments awaken in me the memories I had of all the demands the WTBTS put on us. You're so right about what we were supposed to wear, how long the guys hair was supposed to be, mustache or no mustache, depending on the congregation. My experience since leaving them has revealed to me, that no matter what we were forbidden to do, if it's meant to be, it will happen anyway. People can keep us from being with someone, but it didn't stop me. It took me 35 years to be with a couple of guys I was forbidden to be with back when I was 16/17 yrs. old. We had a ball seeing each other again.

I got disfellowshipped unjustly, but hey....they all treated me as if I was already DF beforehand, so when I was officially, it was no different.

Sorry to hear about your tendencies to still judge others. I hate that about me as well. At times I even resort to not looking at someone when I walk down the street, afraid I'll think something dumb about them. I'd rather not look to avoid having something to judge.

God does love us, each and everyone of us. He's non-judgmental and if we are made in His image, we should reflect his attitude as well. I try and I know he forgives us when we fail and He doesn't punish us like the JW's do with their DF'ing and pointing of fingers.

Thanks for all the welcomes...I fit right in here. Nice to have sincere friends and not these supeficial "Because-we-have-to" friends.

LINDA

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Finally! Jehovah's Witnesses come to see smellsgood!

by smellsgood in

just now, i had two living, breathing, proseltyzing jehovah's witnesses come to the door.

it's been yeaarrrs!

one was very skinny and the other the other persuasion (i wonder how she would appreciate the articles re: overweight people printed in the seventies?).

REBORNAGAIN

I haven't had any witnesses come to my door yet. Been living here for 1.5 years now. I even live in a somewhat large city. I'm tempted to pretend I know NOTHING about the JW's, let them run a whole sermon by me and hopefully I can come up with some good questions, some I know, they won't know an answer to. I'm sure I could come up with something good. Then on the other hand, I would PROUDLY tell them, "Hey....I'm an Apostate and proud of it. Still wanna talk to me?" *heehee*

LINDA

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Sorry WTS - Higher Ed More Important Than Ever!

by Seeker4 in

i'm working on an article tonight from an interview i did last week with jane sanders, the president of burlington college and the wife of us senator bernie sanders.

i was thinking of the wts's comments this summer at the dc where they really bad mouthed the value of a college education.. this is what jane sanders said:.

"the cost of education is very high, and we are one of the only industrialized nations in the world that doesnt give some kind of strong support to higher education, that considers that that is a necessity.

REBORNAGAIN

OMG.....you mean to tell us that the WTBTS is STILL bad mouthing a college education? After all these years of doing so? They know themselves people cannot survive without a degree now-a-days. I have a couple of interesting remarks to make in that regard:

1.) In Europe, all young people, INCLUDING JW'S... get further schooling, i.e. learn a trade with a degree/certificate. The Witnesses over there, wouldn't even THINK about a lack of schooling to get somewhere in life. Why the contradiction between here & there is beyond me.

2.) Has it ever occured to you all, that the HIGHLY SKILLED brothers at Bethel did NOT learn what they know at Bethel. Most were brought into the JW lifestyle through the door to door ministry. They had their college degrees etc. etc. before hand.

LINDA

P.S. If I had a BA, I wouldn't have had 100+ résumés out there and unemployed for 10 whole months. Hence the reason I headed off to college. My degree is still pending.

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REGRETS?

by REBORNAGAIN in

i was among the jw's for 30 whole years.

left them in 1999 and it was the best thing i ever did.

i can't believe how much i was deprived of, for that matter, all jw's.

REBORNAGAIN

I read 1/2 of Sylvia Browne's book on "The Secret Societies". The particular chapter on the Skull & Bones did not mention a whole lot, and nothing about JW's. I love reading her books. I don't believe what she says, for that matter, I believe nothing anymore. I think we will all know the real story when we die. But, it's interesting to read different things to develop our own ideas and thoughts. I have an open mind now and proud of it.

BTW Everyone, thanks for your feedback, encouragement and for agreeing with me.

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REGRETS?

by REBORNAGAIN in

i was among the jw's for 30 whole years.

left them in 1999 and it was the best thing i ever did.

i can't believe how much i was deprived of, for that matter, all jw's.

REBORNAGAIN

Splitting families? *Ooooops!* I forgot about that. Tell me about it. If they don't ruin the relationships through disfellowshipping, then they do as in my case, where my siblings wouldn't match up to the JW standards and it made me feel uncomfortable being in their presence. I wanted to go out in the field ministry and they didn't or they would do things "Un-becoming a Christian" which drew me away from them. The Society has a way of making some of us feel like we are "better than ....!" Marking others and shunning others are two perfect examples of judging and we are commanded in the Bible NOT to judge others and the JW's do it full steam ahead. I truly regret that I once was affiliated with them. I still have a tendency to judge people silently, and I am working hard on not doing that. I keep telling myself, "I could be in their shoes too!"

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REGRETS?

by REBORNAGAIN in

i was among the jw's for 30 whole years.

left them in 1999 and it was the best thing i ever did.

i can't believe how much i was deprived of, for that matter, all jw's.

REBORNAGAIN

I was among the JW's for 30 whole years. Left them in 1999 and it was the best thing I ever did. I can't believe how much I was deprived of, for that matter, all JW's. I wasn't allowed to continue my education. Not allowed to read anything except the WT & A. Couldn't partake of any hobby as it would rob any available time that I could contribute to the ministry work. I also never learned how to GIVE, e.g. "to charities", or "my time" for people in need, all because the WTBTS wanted all my money & time.

I have 4 children and they are all grown, not one of them was ever baptized and want nothing to do with the JW's. *ThankGod* Since leaving them, back in 1999, I have gone to college, am reading ALL kinds of books, from Dr. Wayne Dyer to Sylvia Browne to learning about Judaism to becoming a Born Again Christian.

"The Truth will set us free?" It sure does. From now on, I get to believe what I want, what I feel God approves of and am more than proud to be there for others, ALL others, not just a certain breed. I now know God has good plans for everyone. He's not going to destroy the sinners, because we are ALL sinners, that would mean eternal death for all. All the Good comes from Him and I can attest to that, I have never been happier. Hallelujah!

LINDA

Regrets? Only that I didn't do this all earlier. But.....sometimes it takes being among them to realize how wrong they are and gives us justification in what we can now claim.

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Letter that my DFed wife received from her Pioneer Mother

by Hangin_on in

we have been dfed for almost 3.5yrs and have been trying to get back in for 2 yrs and we are getting the runaround.. anyway..... here is the letter my pregnant wife received from her elderess pioneer mother.. .

dear mary,.

i am writing to ask you please do not try to talk to me until you are reinstated.

REBORNAGAIN

Quote: "....the way Jehovah's word outlines." ???????????? Where is that stated in the Bible? Nowhere! Jesus even sat and ate with greedy tax collectors, backstabbers etc. etc. I am still so annoyed and sad at how much JW's judge others, i.e. point fingers.