after leaving the org... and confronting problems (in the real world), did you ever feel like... maybe this is a sign i shouldn't have left?.
i felt like this a couple weeks ago after finding out the guy i lost my virginity to (an other ex-dub), had a girlfriend the whole time we were together.
the thought of the org.
Hi GirlOnFence, For me those feelings represented floating episodes and indicated I had not done sufficient exit counseling. Now, after I have had professional, as well as peer to peer, exit counseling as well as hundreds of hours of research on the history as well as the principles and practices of the group, I never have any floating episodes anymore.
Best wishes, gary
The Way I See it
http://www.freeminds.org/buss/buss.htm
how can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?.
when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.
young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.
There are cases where a (Witness) girl became pregnant as a result of one sex interview with a boy (read elder).
I was on the streets with this issue. Imagine how proud I was . . . .
yesterday i got home and i realized i accidentally brought a necklace with a cross on it from my boyfriend's house.. it was in a regular brown paper bag i put some of my things in.
i was lying in bed last night thinking about it wondering if i should take it outside.
i was afraid the demons were going to invade my house.. i decided to leave my tv on all night because we all know the demons will not bother you if your light or tv is on.
Hi Bobbi, Your mother was an exorcist:-)
Mine just brought the deemins in with the rummage sale stuff.
Is your mother still in the group?
i was at the mall last night and my wife and i ran into two jw girls i used to know.
i called out her name and she was very nice but i couldn't resist to mention something to her about her husband.
one night about three years ago my wife and i were out having fun when i saw from a distance two old jw friends, one of which was this girls husband.
Hi Austrian, I too was snubbed and shunned before I disassociated formally by way of an interview with the local daily paper. My feelings for them were friendly until they snubbed me. That angered me and the rest is history.
Football permit huh? That's a new one for me. Hahaha
Glad you are here. Gary
The Way I See it
http://www.freeminds.org/buss/buss.htm
i was at the mall last night and my wife and i ran into two jw girls i used to know.
i called out her name and she was very nice but i couldn't resist to mention something to her about her husband.
one night about three years ago my wife and i were out having fun when i saw from a distance two old jw friends, one of which was this girls husband.
Welcome Austrian, Thanks for the post. I look forward to reading your story when you are ready.
Isn't it a fragile love and acceptance that can go away as a result of one cigarette? With that realization and the very noticeable postponement of all the rewards that need to follow the apocalypse, isn't it no wonder the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is loosing so many literature distributors?
What else bothered you about the group other than the hypocrisy?
hate strong word .
i hate jehovahs witnesses pure and simple.
i know hate is a strong word and people often try to encourage one to find an alternative manner of description.
Jack, You could be a Watchtower writer in your next life. What a donkey of a post. Why I hate them except I don't hate them except I do hate some of them and I do hate the collective and I don't hate my family except I hate what it does to them and If they disobey the “society” then they will be destroyed by Jesus and the angels at “Armageddon”.
Hahahaha Bend over. I have some ear drops for you. Hahahaha
tolerance : the capacity for or practice of recognizing and respecting the opinions, practices, behavior or beliefs of others.. sadly, there is a double standard on this board practiced by many.
i have had a spat with stinky pantz about tolerance and we have both apologized.
this defintion is here for the others who think that tolerance is something that only christians don't have much of!
Hi DJ,
Tolerance is also defined as "the breaking point". . . . just as a side bar.
You wrote: >In the USA, it is politically correct to be "tolerant". <
In the USA it WAS common to see private citizens and businesses and government agencies accepting of ethnic and religious diversity. That is not as true now. Try to enter customs if you are of Eastern origin. Or try to pass customs at the USA Mexico border of you are Latin or look like you are a Muslim. Or get a plane ticket and not be racially profiled. Maybe I just notice it more now.
Seems to me the USA is a capitalistic country and is politically centered. It is NOT politically correct to not be politically correct in the USA or to be tolerant of political diversity. Try wearing a swastika or advocating communism. The perceived acceptance all but disappears.
The reason religion diversification seemed accepted in the USA is religion is not important to the function. Capitalism is.
I'm not so sure there is a double standard on the board. I'm not that sure there IS a definable standard . . . . a right. Maybe there are just a lot of people expressing their opinions. In all my time posting here, I have never had a problem with any other post or poster. I have had different opinions, I have debated, but you all have my permission to have an opinion different than mine. That is not a conflict.
That you hold conflicting opinions, or that your posts do not agree with your stated opinions is not my business. I am here to learn, be entertained, and test my ideas against others. A counter opinion is a gift to me. Without those, I can never test my own thinking.
Thanks for the thread. Very stimulating for a rainy Sunday. gary
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if you were disfellowedshipped after you made an appeal by the appeal committee,you are not yet disfellowedshipped!.
in the elder flock book there is a little known "right" that the rank and file are not told when they lose their appeal.. that is that you have the "right"to appeal an appeal.you can request the appeal committee to forward their decision to the branch office and have them review all the decisions once again.. however ,when the appeal committee hides this "right"from you and does not inform you about this "right"there is an error in judgment on their part.. hence you are "not"disfellowedshipped when denied this "right"as outlined in the flock book for elders to follow when hearing an appeal.. i know that as far as the announcement that is made prior to this "right"everyone will treat you as such,not knowing that there has been a miscarriage of justice against you.. it is true that the branch office may uphold the appeal decision,but, that is not the issue here.. has anyone ever used this "right" or,been told of it by the appeal committee and had their decisions overturned.in the case of a family member we were not told.. blueblades
Radger? Is that you?
i knew a brother who stuttered alot in the congregation.
when he spoke, he had a hard time saying what he wanted to say.
i guess that being nervous at the hall making comments made matters worse.
Did you know any brothers who stuttered alot?
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Thanks for posting this. Very interesting!
