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JW Monopoly board game LOL

by James_Slash in

http://www.ministrygallery.com/english/games.htm.

i had to laugh when i saw this.

its called house2house.

James_Slash

http://www.ministrygallery.com/english/games.htm

I had to laugh when I saw this. Its called house2house. According to the review it helps true Christians, sorry, the player get used to the scriptures needed for the door-to-door work.

You mean they don't know them already? I wonder what they have instead of fake money? Perhaps the person who wins has the most return visits or studies or MAYBE there is no winner - it could develop a competitive attitude. ;)

Most JW's hate the door-to-door work so apart from the overly zealous, brainwashed few, I can't see many of them shelling out £25+ quid to play something which reminds them of their Saturday mornings in the freezing winter having doors slammed in their faces. All this fun will cost you $38.20 (£25.80 in UK money).

What a joke.

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What's the biggest lie/rumor that has ever been told about YOU?

by VampireDCLXV in

most of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.

far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.

when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.

James_Slash

Welcome Vampire.

Interesting to hear your story.

Like many have already said, you had a narrow escape. Below I will tell you why.

I'm sure many rumours have gone around about me. I'm probably referred to as the wife-beater by some after a so-called 'sister' and her JW family accused me of being many of the same things as you - controlling, aggressive, violent, unpredictable. We were married for two years, had a little girl and my whole world was turned upside down.

The truth is I had started to see through the WTBTS long before our split and I was a regular visitor to this site. I used to relay a lot of things to her which I could tell she felt uncomfortable about.

She used to tell her Nan a lot of things I used to say. Her nan is a hardcore JW - she would NEVER question anything the borg says or dare to go against what Elders told her. A lot of her family, especially the women, had long-term mental issues - none of them could hold a relationship down and had broken marriages behind them.

This was a fault on my part. My ex-wife would often tell me of the abuse she suffered at the hands, both sexual and physical at the hands of family and other people. I guess it was only a matter of time before I was accused and so it came to be. But that is what is being called 'naive' is.

Following our separation, her nan told me that our marriage had failed because "I hadn't followed the truth". What a load of tripe. They influenced my ex-wife, took my daughter away from me and subsequently tried to brainwash her into JW thinking.

This was all reported to the Bethel by my Mom - also a JW. She was also falsely accused of abusing my daughter by my ex-wife and her family. Nothing was done. The Bethel think slander and gossip is obviously ok. They just told my Mom the classic line to "leave things to Jehovah" and work on her own spirituality.

Anyway, my ex-wife left the organisation also and went to live with a man 100+ miles away from her family. At least I see my daughter now away from these cretins.

What made me laugh is that many so-called JW friends encouraged me to return to the org. They couldn't understand how I couldn't put this whole episode behind me and move on. Do they really think I could sit with these people singing praises to Jehovah and being a robot to the WTBTS after what they put me through?

Anyway, I met a wonderful person who I have been in a relationship with for over two years. We have a 11 months old son and are very happy - a lot happier than I ever was married to a nutball JW with issues. It just goes to show that you don't need the WTBTS to have a happy family life.

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Corruption Rocks Anglican Church in South Africa...

by Raphael in

http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article591196.ece/corruption-rocks-anglican-diocese-in-sa.

James_Slash

I don't believe this story.

Obviously Satan is controlling the media and is trying to put people off from joining the Anglican church.

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What book did you study which brought you into the org? Is it now defunct?

by James_Slash in

i think we can all gather that given the major doctrinal changes over the past few decades, a lot of books are now defunct for one reason or another whether that be doctrinal changes or simply that they are now inaccurate in line with todays teachings.. so which book convinced you that it was the 'truth' and brought you into the organisation and is it now defunct?.

mine was the knowledge that leads to everlasting life published in 2000. i don't know for sure, but i can't imagine that this book is completely accurate given the changes recently regarding generation..

James_Slash

I think we can all gather that given the major doctrinal changes over the past few decades, a lot of books are now defunct for one reason or another whether that be doctrinal changes or simply that they are now inaccurate in line with todays teachings.

So which book convinced you that it was the 'truth' and brought you into the organisation and is it now defunct?

Mine was The Knowledge that leads to Everlasting Life published in 2000. I don't know for sure, but I can't imagine that this book is completely accurate given the changes recently regarding generation.

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YOU KNOW IT'S THE TRUTH BECAUSE, THE WATCHTOWER TELLS YOU IT IS

by elm in

the study editionof the watchtower for september 15th 2010, p13 states "similarly today, a governing body composed of spirit-anointed christians contributes to the unity of the worldwide congregation.

the governing body publishes spiritually encouraging literature in many languages.

this spiritual food is based on god's word.

James_Slash

We all know that they are nothing more than MEN - trying to put a certain perspective on the Bible through their publications to fit their teachings.

They made it quite clear a number of months ago before the new generation teaching that any information in the Watchtower comes directly from Jehovah and with his blessing - and to question it would be going toe-to-toe with Jehovah in opposition.

So like many have said, how can they justify this when they have made major errors in the past and blamed 'apostates' in the Bethel (I take it that they mean Ray Franz) for what was published in the material?

The bottom line is that men have wrote the literature since day one. These men have changed over decades and so has the doctrine and message.

It amazes me how many books that people came into the religion on (my Mom studied the 'Live Forever' book) must be defunct, out of date or just plain innacurate for one reason or another.

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Whats the weirdest thing a JW ever said to you?

by chukky 594 in

i remember a 'sister' coming up to me and telling me off for being on the atkins diet, as it was satanic and designed by satan.. chukky.

James_Slash

I remember an Elder stating in a talk that we shouldn't listen too much to the news or the media as Satan controls it.

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How brainwashed were you before you discovered the truth about the "truth"?

by asilentone in

for me, i was 100 percent brainwashed.

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James_Slash

I was brought up in the religion from the age of 6 until I was in my mid-20's.

I was completely brainwashed that it was the 'truth'. I chose my association carefully, altered my television viewing, music, video games in line with what the organisation had stated and would not drink or go to nightclubs.

Then I started seeing what others in the org were doing and getting away with - especially the younger ones who had Dad's as Elders. They seemed to do what they liked - excessive drinking, nightclubbing, plenty of worldly associates, swearing, basically all the things we were not supposed to do. These individuals were often pioneers and would go out on a Saturday night, getting drunk yet would be at the meeting Sunday answering up in the Watchtower.

I think the Paedophile scandal was the first thing which seriously rocked my faith. I couldn't believe that these things could happen in 'Jehovahs organisation' yet it could not be ignored or excused - it was happening and it was true.

I have detailed here before about the state of my marriage to a JW. I had a catalogue of lies told about me by my ex-wife and her JW family after I decided to leave the faith. I was branded a 'wife beater' and was blocked from seeing my daughter for nearly 12 months. Eventually all allegations were dropped. My Mother wrote to the Bethel regarding the individuals in question - nothing was done.

I am 30 now and I'm glad to have been out of it for over 5 years. 3+ years on I am remarried to a 'worldly girl' and couldn't be happier. I have a 10 month old son too who I adore. I also have a fantastic relationship with my daughter.

I have since researched the WTBTS in depth. It is not the 'truth' - fact.

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Rudolfo Albert Deleon

by James_Slash in

from scarborough evening news 1999-2000. paedophile jailed.

a jehovahs witness who carried out a series of sexual assaults against young girls has been jailed.. rudolfo albert deleon, 24 of esplanade gardens scarborough admitted 14 charges of indecency.. he was sentenced to 3 years, 11 months in prison.

his sentence was handed down by judge paul hoffman at leeds crown court yesterday.. church elder chris atkinson told scarborough evening news: "child abuse is abhorrent to us jehovahs witnesses and no-one involved in this crime has any place in our membership.

James_Slash

I also have it on good authority, that after his sentence he was deported back to the United States.

He got remarried and was looking to be reinstated in a congregation. I would imagine that this has happened by now.

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Rudolfo Albert Deleon

by James_Slash in

from scarborough evening news 1999-2000. paedophile jailed.

a jehovahs witness who carried out a series of sexual assaults against young girls has been jailed.. rudolfo albert deleon, 24 of esplanade gardens scarborough admitted 14 charges of indecency.. he was sentenced to 3 years, 11 months in prison.

his sentence was handed down by judge paul hoffman at leeds crown court yesterday.. church elder chris atkinson told scarborough evening news: "child abuse is abhorrent to us jehovahs witnesses and no-one involved in this crime has any place in our membership.

James_Slash

From Scarborough Evening News 1999-2000

PAEDOPHILE JAILED

A Jehovahs Witness who carried out a series of sexual assaults against young girls has been jailed.

Rudolfo Albert Deleon, 24 of Esplanade Gardens Scarborough admitted 14 charges of indecency.

He was sentenced to 3 years, 11 months in prison. His sentence was handed down by Judge Paul Hoffman at Leeds Crown Court yesterday.

Church Elder Chris Atkinson told Scarborough Evening News: "Child abuse is abhorrent to us Jehovahs Witnesses and no-one involved in this crime has any place in our membership. Mr Deleon is now in the place of the authorities where he belongs".

He was arrested in March on suspicion of offences against young girls.

Deleon, an American National was subsequently charged with 28 counts of indecent assault, he pleaded guilty to 14 of these in June for a period of 12 months before he was exposed for molesting girls.

Judge Hoffman said: "You are a young man with a lecherous disposition".

The Court was told that Deleon came to Scarborough in 1998 after meeting a JW from the town who was visiting America.

In addition to his sentence, he was told that he had to sign on the sex offenders register for life.

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Definitely getting DF'ed now

by notverylikely in

jw
friends

came out as an apostate to the wife, came out about the depression, anger at being second fiddle in her life to 9 old guys in brooklyn, came out about having turned atheist, came out about the indiscrections, the tobacco use, everything.. fuck.

me..

James_Slash

At least you are being honest mate.

Better than living a lie.

James_Slash

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