Posts by llbh

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Former Vice President Cheney Says Hes Worried About Stability In Iraq After US forces Leave

by Bangalore in

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former vice president cheney says he's worried about stability in iraq after us forces leave.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-vice-president-cheney-says-hes-worried-about-stability-in-iraq-after-us-forces-leave/2011/12/13/giqaa7abro_story.html.

bangalore.

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llbh

Designs,

Iraq is predominantly, though not exclusively Shia, unlike Iran which is almost exclusively Shia, so there is a natural fraternity there. Shia influence is therefore greater as Iraq is 60% + Shia, this is further overlaid with complicated tribal allegiances, The Kurds are a mixture of Shia and Sunni. This is to my mind where Bush and co singularly and miserably failed before their invasion, the preparation for peace was risible; the consequences were and are horrendous.

There is no doubt that Iran foments mischief in places such as Syria and Lebanon, they also loathe the Saudi's and The Taliban. What is also becoming clear is that the people of the Middle East detest their kleptocratic rulers and want change irrespective of the branch of Islam they subscribe to. If the west helps this and supports this awakening, the region can and will change, it will anyway.

A very good friend of mine who is an Iranian and still has family there is convinced that the Old Guard in Iran will change and or be overthrown.

David

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Former Vice President Cheney Says Hes Worried About Stability In Iraq After US forces Leave

by Bangalore in

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former vice president cheney says he's worried about stability in iraq after us forces leave.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-vice-president-cheney-says-hes-worried-about-stability-in-iraq-after-us-forces-leave/2011/12/13/giqaa7abro_story.html.

bangalore.

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llbh

Iran does not want a war with Israel, even the more extreme people in the the regime know that Iran will be annihilated. I agree with Justita's analysis ,Iran largely wants to be left alone, and Cheney's examination of what was going on in Iraq was woeful.

The Bush/ Cheney invasion of Iraq was a botched job at best, costing thousand's of lives, mostly Iraqi, and vast amounts of $. with what result? Apart from Saddam going what benefits have accrued to Iraq, no wonder Cheney is concerned, but he and Bush caused it in large part? Saddam may have gone in the ' Arab spring'. Bush did, and does not understand the Middle east, much less really care for its people.

David

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What's your take on the future of the Euro?

by darthfader in

treaty to save euro takes shape, but britain sits out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/business/global/european-leaders-agree-on-fiscal-treaty.html.

brussels european leaders, meeting until the early hours of friday, agreed to sign an intergovernmental treaty that would require them to enforce stricter fiscal and financial discipline in their future budgets.

llbh

The WSJ is entitled to its opinion, however I beg to differ , I know lots of polish people, and it is without any doubt that Poland has benefited massively form its membership of Europe of The EU. I can remember Poland being as a satellite of communist Russia, and they were immensely poorer then. Poland is not alone among former Russian satellites who have benefited by thier membership of The EU. So before reading and quoting the WSJ please check the facts out.

The WSJ is owned by the very much discredited Murdoch ( newscorp aka Fox news) press with thier own unashamedly anti European agenda which i have alluded to.

David

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What's your take on the future of the Euro?

by darthfader in

treaty to save euro takes shape, but britain sits out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/business/global/european-leaders-agree-on-fiscal-treaty.html.

brussels european leaders, meeting until the early hours of friday, agreed to sign an intergovernmental treaty that would require them to enforce stricter fiscal and financial discipline in their future budgets.

llbh

I am very disappointed, though not surprised, by Cameron, he Merkel and Sarkozy have behaved like teenage children squabbling.

The European Union was created in the wake of WW2 with the encouragement and blessing of The Allies, including USA. There was " .. to be an ever closer union.." the point of which was to forestall the national and internecine wars that have bedevilled Europe for centuries, and it has worked. The Euro was and is a natural corollary of this binding together.

About 50% of UK trade is with Europe, we are plain stupid to choose not to be in the rooms where decisions that affect our economy at the deepest level are made; sadly Cameron plays to his eurosceptic gallery, cheered on by the largely ill informed ( or is it informing?) right wing press with thier own translucent agenda. We will be like Switzerland whereby we have to conform with European laws with little, if any input. To say we are safeguarding our sovereignty is patently errant nonsense, if the markets choose to speculate against the pound our sovereignty is worth about an hour; that is it, I can not see that it is worth it.

The problems with Euro are to do with dodgy politicians and banks not being honest with each other and a a supine electorate, that is now belatedly changing, the fiscal laws were there along , just not the implementation of them.

David

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UK Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses

by JWB in

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uk congregations of jehovah's witnesses[a].

aberaeron.

aberdare.

llbh

JWB do you understand the significance of the ownership of land held in trust? The trust structure of ownership is to avoid paying taxes primarily, this was a benefit conferred by the political classes for all religious organisations, the wts like nearly all religious groups avails itself of this ruse for this reason, they do not have to go along this route, they choose to.

What is your point in cutting and pasting these rather arid and anodyne legal documents?

Regards

David

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Original Carl Oof Johnsson Correspondence with Governing Body

by besty in

there was a thread recently where someone said they were helped a lot by seeing letters to and forth between active jws and the bethel.. with that in mind we've put the correspondence between co johnsson and brooklyn on freeminds as downloadable pdf's.

these are available elsewhere on the internet but this might help newbies to find them a bit more easily.. johnsson letters to bethel and their replies.

also as a reminder mary's project is also available for download - all 154 pages :-) :.

llbh

Thanks besty, this is an incredibly detailed analysis of the facts from a number of angles, and shows the WTS to be deniers of truth, even when shown politely where the date is 607 is plainly wrong.

David

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Governing Body Member Ted Jaracz cornered at Convention and asked about Pedophile database

by Awen in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orrokevgpcm&feature=channel_video_title.

llbh

Britain does not have a privacy law to my knowledge and The EU does not enforce one, wrong on both counts. France which is also part of the EU does have a privacy law, and the rich and powerful use itto cover up the parts of thier private life that they wish to hide from view. I suspect that Mr Jaracz wished we had one for the same reason.

The arrogance of the wtbs and indifference to the suffering of the victims if abuse is awful.

David

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Power of attorney of transfusion issues in the UK

by trailerfitter in

hi you wonderful people, i have a serious question.

when my wife finally gets baptised will she have to sign the power of attorney over to the jws automatically or this a voluntary thing?

i am concerned being a none bleiever that she will undermine my authority on this issue.

llbh

If you have children who are below the age of 18, you might wish to write to your family doctor explaining that you do not share her views, and that as such you will sign documents authorising all medical treatment you agree with. I did this, and my wife was not pleased, I pointed out that they are my children too.

David

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Why So Many Young People Are Leaving The Watchtower

by Jeremy C in

i have been giving a lot of thought to the young people who are leaving the watchtower organization in recent years.

last night, i was reading the thread posted by jwfacts a while back in which he provided some statistics and graphs showing the rapidly declining growth in the watchtower.

one factor that was discussed at length was the high number of young people who do not stay in the organization.

llbh

Your analysis is spot on about the young people, it could apply to many who joined later too, such as myself. My youngest son thankfully was sufficiently bored by the meetings that he stopped going when he was about four.

All what you says applies to women in the wts too, though they are often trapped in emotionally and financially.How about a thread on that?

All of what you said can be applied to high control groups throughout the world, such as fervent Islam and Jewry to name but two. What allot of the West has yet to fully wake up to is that young people such as the young JW's you speak of, do engage easily with modern technology, the older guys (they always are men) just do not understand this, forums like this simply did not exist until recently. The free exchange of ideas that the modern communications enable, means that the fallacies upon which these groups are founded upon are very easily and quickly exposed. The regimes in the Middle East are likewise controlled by old and unwise men, and the young ( there a lots of them) are massively disaffected and marginalised, hence the worries of The House of Saud.

I enjoyed your post very much.

David

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Victoria, Australia: Steven Unthank's Press Release: JW's Hierarchy Formally Charged Today With Child Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovah's witnesses hierarchy charged.

immediate press release: 26 july 2011. link to this press release: http://wp.me/p1g1hc-4o.

worldwide church hierarchy charged with child abuse.

llbh

As Steve said this is no longer about SU it is about willing non compliance with legislation for the protection of minors, and the state is looking at prosecuting the WTS for such non compliance, end of; Mr Uthank is no longer involved. JW's have children present at meetings, that would be enough to seek such compliance, though oddly enough in The UK I am not aware the UK government asks for crb checks with the WTS

David