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  seperating anger for WT from my mom

  by dogisgod in

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  i posted this earlier under the bitterness post.

  how do i seperate the anger i have being raised in the borg from my mother who forced it down my throat even after i left.

  she justwouldn't leave it alone.

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  dogisgod

  I posted this earlier under the bitterness post.

  How do I seperate the anger I have being raised in the borg from my mother who forced it down my throat even after I left. She justwouldn't leave it alone. She died (now she knows "the secret" ie what comes after death) I really loved my mom. She was so controlling that she would not drive an automatic as she didn't have as much control. She didnt force things on my 2 brothers but she sure did on me and I want to just remember her and what good qualities she had but my memory of her is blanketed by the blackness of the society. Does anyone know how to do this. My counselor told me to try to see her as a victim as well. That's hard because she was not one to mess with. When I let myself think of her I just start crying...she's been gone two years.
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  so oompa got df'd this week...

  by oompa in

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  no call to invite me to a committee meeting...no notification of deciding i should be df'd....no telling my jw wife of the announcement...not a chance to appeal what i did not even know what was going on...my mini-serve son is devasted....he even researched it....told me to go to page 153-154 of the od book...never heard of it but it is a green hardback given to all who are to be baptized.

  wow...the elders broke every rule in this book as to my case.... i have no respect for these men that can take away your jw family without even telling you they are going to.

  my jw son has now begged me to meet with my committee...even though there is prob zero chance they can reverse the decision...that chance is from when they let you know...and you have to appeal by letter within 7 days (i cant make this stuff up!!

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  dogisgod

  if you don't want to be dfd then have a lawyer write to the society on your behalf. cite the wt as much as possible. You did nothing. Sounds like the local elders were looking for a chance and blindsided you when you were in the hosp. I must say your wife wasn't much help.

  I'm one of the "walking dead" and it's better than being "in" .

  I hope you get better fast. Bike crashes are so dangerous.
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  My wife wants to plan an anniversary party but we have different social circles...

  by garyneal in

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  perhaps some of you who are unbelieving spouses married to witnesses have had to deal with this at one point of another.

  this is the first time for me and my wife and it has her concerned.

  my wife wants to plan an anniversary party for us and she wants to invite everyone that she and i know.

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  dogisgod

  Have two parties.
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  Disfellowshiped ARE REQUIRED to sit in the library!

  by brotherdan in

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  my mother-in-law is making leaps and bounds in her progress to get out of the watchtower.

  for those of you that don't know, she is df'd but has been working on "coming back".

  recently i've been able to exchange emails about the dangers of the organization and share jesus with her.

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  My cong dsf a very prominant brother. He was a very tall, well built man and good looking in a manly kind of way. For a whole year he would come to the meetings and stand at the back of the hall behind the seats holding his bible. It was the elephant in the room. He was later reinstated. I think they were afraid of him. He had a photo type memory but I guess he wasn't smart enogh to get out. I really liked him and his family. He has died now but I still remember him fondly. He was not going to be shamed and he wasn't.
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  The struggle to avoid being bitter

  by crazycate in

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  i dont want to be bitter.

  but i now understand why some or many ex-jws are bitter.

  i remember when i was an active zealous jw thinking, if someone wants to leave, go ahead and leave.

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  dogisgod

  What is the difference between "bitter" and "anger"? My mom jumped into the borg when I was 8 mos old. I was fully and totally indoctrinated. I left at 36yrs. I still believed for quite a while and then when I read Franze's book I was totally blown away and then did more research. I want to separate the anger towards the society from the anger against my mom. We went round and round this even when I begged to NOT discuss it. She was "faithful" till the end but when she died that was it. She couldn't drive at night so they gave her a phone thing that she could listen to the meetings at home. The problem is that she wasn't getting their association. It was easier to give her that than pick up an old lady for the meetings. I told her I would take her and even sit with her but I'd be reading a book. (I really would have done that even though I never wanted to step into that place) She felt it was too disrepectful (which it was to the WT but was not for her). My brother and I always took her out and did for her but she missed "her congregation".

  I am trying to reestablish connections with my relatives which is not entirely successful. I blame both her and the WT for cutting us off from our family. So how do I just separate my mom whom I really, really loved and that irresponsible, despicable group of men who take everything that has meaning from out lives?
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  Do you think your baptism is still valid?

  by karter in

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  i got baptised about 25 years ago and was told the new system would be here by now.. along with a lot of other false promises.. so the answer for me would be no!!

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  The sister and brother that studied with me asked me, who will surviv Armegeddon? Ans....The Great Crowd. Ques. How are individuals identified as members of the great crowd? after much prodding I finally came up with, you have to be baptised. So they said, You are not baptised so you will be destroyed. I went with them th next day and got baptised...didn't even tell my mom.

  Do I think being scared into something is valid? No

  Am I going to live my life by a scared 16yr olds decision? No.
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  what was the worst advice given to you while you were a JW ?

  by wasblind in

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  mine's was, if your job interfere with the meetings you have to decide who you will choose,.

  serving jehovah or serving man, if anyone knew my needs it most definitely was jehovah.

  and he knew i needed my job to eat.

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  dogisgod

  You can't divorce your gay husband because he is repentant and if you do you will be disfellowshipped. You also cannot tell anyone about this because you would hurt his reputation.
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  Does anyone else feel like an alien?

  by bluecanary in

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  you guys remember the show third rock from the sun?

  if you don't, a group of aliens take on human bodies and pose as a family on earth.

  they try to fit in but get things wrong and hilarity ensues.. yesterday my family celebrated easter.

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  dogisgod

  I always remind my friends how strange their human festivities are. I was Marilyn in the Munsters growing up. Still am but I like me.
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  Dub Neighbor

  by Farkel in

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  i have a neighbor who is a dub.

  she is elderly and bound to a wheelchair.

  i haven't told her i was once braindead, too.

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  dogisgod

  As my mom got older and her vision worsened the Cong got her a telephone where she could listen to the meetings. That way they didn't have to pick her up and take her home. Then they cancelled the Tuesday book study that she could drive to during the day. In her last year, no one came over, no one called. The elders with wifes showed at the hospital to ensure she didn't get a blood transfusion. They kept wanting to see her documents. She had appointed my brother to call the shots in case of her incapacitation. He would love to do a drive by on a few KHs . I'm sure it would have been onn the news. They made an intolerable situation a million times worse.
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  Would You Picket A Kingdom Hall?

  by minimus in

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  i know some zealots that have carried signs and peacefully picketed kingdom halls, especially on the memorial.. what do you think about that?.

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  No. It just feeds their "persecution" righteousness. Is a wast of time.