"I finally get to see Marilyn".Joe DiMaggio.
"Don't die like me"George Best.
sooner or later it happens to all of us.the time comes for us to draw our last breath and pass from this life into the next.over the years history has recorded some fascinating "famous last words"...here are a few.. "i've never felt better".douglas fairbanks,sr.,actor.. "iam about to----or i am going to-----die;either expression is correct".dominique bouhours,french grammarian.. "don't let it end like this.tell them i said something.
"pancho villa,mexican revolutionary.. "all my possessions for a moment of time!
"elizabeth 1,queen of england.. "everybody has got to die,but i have always believed an exception would be made in my case.now what?
"I finally get to see Marilyn".Joe DiMaggio.
"Don't die like me"George Best.
Besty good to see you here.
I hope to be over your way this year lets have another beer and a dram.
Karter.
in my old congro 2 people started study's at about the same time.. lets call them john and jane.. john started a study with an elder who was related to most of the b.o.e.. jane with my mother a publisher with an unbleaving mate.. they both progressed well to the point of baptism.. johns house was nothing short of a pigsty overgrown grass inside filthy ect.. janes was not alot better.. when they both wanted to bet baptised jane was held back becouse of the state she kept her house but john was aloud to get baptised.. when the elders told jane this she she stopped her study and went to another religion and lived happly ever after.. the diffrence bettween john and jane appart from he studyed with and elder related to most of the b.o.e........ jane was blind!!.
more to this story.. john quickly moved along with the j.w's doing mic's sound ect and eventually married a sister.. john had 2 children from a previous relationship his son lived with him but he said he never saw his daughter becouse his ex had poisoned her against him.. the son became a j.w and was a real nice guy eventuly getting married to a nice sister and settling down ,both are good j.w's.
to this day.. john however turned out to be a wife beating s.o.a.b they had a child and she was pregnant with number 2 when the police were called on him for beating her up and he was arrested.. the police locked him up for the nite and took him to court the next day were he was found guilty of beating her up.. this was all kept very quite and the elders never took any action against john.. as any court records are open to the public you would think he would at least be "publicly reproved"....nothing!!..
In my old congro 2 people started study's at about the same time.
Lets call them John and Jane.
John started a study with an Elder who was related to most of the B.O.E.
Jane with my mother a publisher with an unbleaving mate.
They both progressed well to the point of Baptism.
Johns house was nothing short of a pigsty overgrown grass inside filthy ect.
Janes was not alot better.
When they both wanted to bet baptised Jane was held back becouse of the state she kept her house but John was aloud to get Baptised.
When the Elders told Jane this she she stopped her study and went to another religion and lived happly ever after.
The diffrence bettween John and Jane appart from he studyed with and Elder related to most of the B.O.E.......
Jane was Blind!!
More to this story.
John quickly moved along with the J.W's doing Mic's sound ect and eventually Married a sister.
John had 2 children from a previous relationship his son lived with him but he said he never saw his Daughter becouse his ex had poisoned her against him.
The son became a J.W and was a real nice guy eventuly getting married to a nice sister and settling down ,Both are good J.W's. to this day.
John however turned out to be a wife beating S.O.A.B they had a child and she was pregnant with number 2 when the Police were called on him for beating her up and he was Arrested.
The Police locked him up for the nite and took him to court the next day were he was found guilty of beating her up.
This was all kept very quite and the Elders never took any action against John.
As any court records are open to the public you would think he would at least be "Publicly reproved"....Nothing!!.
Not even private reproof.
Tured out John was not aloud to see his Daughter from his 1st relationship becouse of the same thing.....Wife beating.
The Moral to the story....Kinda like being related to the Mafia boss....do what you want we will protect you.
Karter.
of course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?
i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.
they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..
Myself and another j.w were working in an area that was known as a gay hangout. There was a public toilet there that was a gay meet up place we saw a guy we suspected was gay (practicing j.w at the time)go in to the toilet and come out a long time latter....... He may have had a case of the runns but we suspected otherwise. Karter
it's a cold 13 degrees fahrenheit in tennessee this morning where i live.
glad i'm retired and don't have to work outside today.
what about where you live.
Mid 20c here down under.
Karter.
one word for it.....apostate!
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One word for it.....Apostate!!
the report is finally out.......... ————————.
recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.
recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..
Some of the recommendations are
Australia wide law requiring all adults to report known or suspected child abuse in Religious and other institutions.
A nation wide web site of child abusers.
The J.W's never took the ARC seriously and i doubt very much weather they will take on board anything from it.
Karter.
it's rachel from new zealand here.
i am currently helping a nz journalist source potential interviewees for a short documentary she is making about child sexual abuse issues among jws in new zealand.
nothing of this nature has been seen in the news in nz before so this is quite exciting!
Pmed you
they have settled a lot out of court with gagging orders both ways so we will never know how much was payed out there.but some have been made public.
any ideas how much in total?.
karter
i have been thinking about the mentally diseased belief/doctrine of jw's lately and the thread the other day about the mentally challenged child who was brutally (and humorously) honest at a convention got me to wonder something.
it seems to me that jw's use 'mentally diseased' in such a derogatory way as if it is a failing on the part of the person, or almost sinful (demons?
), or perhaps that person should just be dismissed on all counts all the time.
We're I live there is a guy who raped his sister when she was 13 he is now an Elder worthy of double honer......and we are mentally diseased......think about that take all the time you need