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Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!
by LostGeneration in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

anyone know who this monty baker is?

i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
FadingTruth

Did she just torpedo the JW? I think she just said a standard of practice she would recommend is never to allow a former child abuser to be in a ministry position. Maybe she doesn't know that JW's appoint child abusers again as MS or elders.
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Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW
by Mad Sweeney in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
FadingTruth

The sound cuts out everytime he says someone's name. You'll see him flinch like he's having a stroke each time he realizes what he did.
It's live, but delayed slightly so they can mute.
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Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW
by Mad Sweeney in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
FadingTruth

whether any consideration of those outside the congregation was made when deciding to reprove sex offenders who may reoffend in the community.
That hit me hard. I'm ashamed to say I never considered that aspect before. Being a born-in, we have the mentality that it's us against the "world", quite literally.
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Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW
by Mad Sweeney in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
FadingTruth
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Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW
by Mad Sweeney in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
FadingTruth

Wow...she got counselled for "gossiping" when it was true and about her own abuse? Nuts!
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Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW
by Mad Sweeney in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
FadingTruth

"It's not appropriate is it?"
"Yes, it is"
This guy is a freakin' idiot.
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Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW
by Mad Sweeney in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
FadingTruth

So in addition to victims' testimony, the judicial committee gets a confession from the wrongdoer and they choose not believe it, because they are not sure if the wrongdoer really means to confess. How crazy is that?

He's just trying to save his own ass in this case. Even the Elder book says a confession OR two witnesses is sufficient. He's screwed from both ends on this one.
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1,000 sex abuse cases hidden in Australia for 68,000 publishers...what is it worldwide?
by cappytan in
1. jw
2. experiences
the press is reporting that over 1,000 cases of abuse were hidden from authorities in australia.. australia has around 68,000 publishers.. if you that ratio applied to the u.s. also, there could be over 14,700 cases that were covered up here.. if the ratio held the same worldwide, that would be over 117,600 cases.. just let that sink in a little..
FadingTruth

Cappytan, it's much worse than that. That's 1006 case files. Each pedophile may have abused more than one child.
"During the investigation of this case study, Watchtower Australia produced some 5,000 documents pursuant to summonses issued by the Royal Commission on 4 and 28 February 2015. Those documents include 1,006 case files relating to allegations of child sexual abuse made against members of the Jehovah’s Witness Church in Australia since 1950 – each file for a different alleged perpetrator of child sexual abuse"
And these are just cases that were reported.
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Media headline:Jehovah's Witnesses did not report 1006 alleged sex abusers to police, royal commission told
by fulltimestudent in
1. jw
2. friends
check it for yourself: .

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-report-1006-alleged-sex-abusers-to-police-royal-commission-told-20150727-gil1u7.

not a good look!.
FadingTruth
Thanks for the response, Mephis!
Still to give testimony at this commission:
- Rodney Spinks is the senior Service Desk Elder who has served in the Service Department since January 2007.
- Terrence O’Brien is the Coordinator of the Australia Branch and a director and Secretary of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia. He has actively served with the Jehovah’s Witness Church for 40 years
- Vincent Toole is a solicitor who has, since 2010, overseen the operation of the Legal Department within the Church’s Australia Branch Office. M
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Media headline:Jehovah's Witnesses did not report 1006 alleged sex abusers to police, royal commission told
by fulltimestudent in
1. jw
2. friends
check it for yourself: .

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-report-1006-alleged-sex-abusers-to-police-royal-commission-told-20150727-gil1u7.

not a good look!.
FadingTruth

This is amazing, and I'm curious...
How is it that the elder & ex-Co appeared before this commission? Were they legally required to? How come no JW lawyers were there, I'm quite surprised by that. I'm glad the commission was able to ask blunt and frank questions without JW council weasel-wording their way out of it. How come the GB was able to avoid subpoenas in other court cases? And finally, where did they get the 1,000 abuse records from? Didn't the WT always withhold those files when pressed forthem?
So many questions, but it gives me hope something like this could happen in the US