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  Borg similarities to Animal Farm? Absolutely!

  by WingCommander in

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  i remember having to read george orwell's "animal farm" in 11th grade.

  it was a mandatory assignment and after our readings there were discussions.

  a few years later, my own mother whom had worked in a local psychiatric unit related to me that she felt the borganization closely resembled animal farm and also 1984. this was truly striking to me, but now more than ever it makes sense on so many levels.

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  I just found this:

  http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/armenia/10/

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  Borg similarities to Animal Farm? Absolutely!

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  i remember having to read george orwell's "animal farm" in 11th grade.

  it was a mandatory assignment and after our readings there were discussions.

  a few years later, my own mother whom had worked in a local psychiatric unit related to me that she felt the borganization closely resembled animal farm and also 1984. this was truly striking to me, but now more than ever it makes sense on so many levels.

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  Borg similarities to Animal Farm? Absolutely!

  by WingCommander in

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  i remember having to read george orwell's "animal farm" in 11th grade.

  it was a mandatory assignment and after our readings there were discussions.

  a few years later, my own mother whom had worked in a local psychiatric unit related to me that she felt the borganization closely resembled animal farm and also 1984. this was truly striking to me, but now more than ever it makes sense on so many levels.

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  This is so true. I re-read Animal Farm during my awakening, and it felt so fitting.

  "Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership is a pleasure. On the contrary, it is a deep and heavy responsibility. No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

  Oh, and the scapegoat Snowball is Satan and his Apostates.

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  2008 Jan 1st Watchtower PUBLIC EDITION searchable PDF

  by AlphaOmega in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  again, as before, many many thanks to fokyc for the scans; i've pdf'd them and made them searchable.. there is mention of 1914 in this edition and mention of 144,000. .

  i'll make no more comments until you've had a chance to read it.. we thought it might be interesting to compare the new formats (study vs public).

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/mb3ggx.

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  Although evolution is usually presented in scientific language,
  it is really a religious doctrine. It teaches a philosophy of
  life and an attitude toward God. (p16)

  ARRRRGGG!!!

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  Questions From Readers: Hunting/Fishing

  by inkling in

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  i guess this means you can maim and kill animals all you want, just so long as you don't enjoy it too much.. sorta like being a isrealite warrior who makes a living killing people but yet is commanded to "hate violence".

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  I guess this means you can maim and kill animals all you want, just so long as you don't enjoy it too much.

  Sorta like being a Isrealite warrior who makes a living killing people but yet is commanded to "Hate Violence"

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  My no4 talk on confession

  by inkling in

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  well, i went thorough and gave my assigned no.

  4 on the unscriptural nature of confession.. this is the talk i gave, if anyone is interested.... -----------------------------.

  to err is human.

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  Well, I went thorough and gave my assigned no. 4 on the unscriptural nature of confession.

  This is the talk I gave, if anyone is interested...

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  to err is human.

  Humans have been making mistakes for many thousands of years, and
  it dosnt seem to be showing any signs of losing popularity.

  wether of not we face up to our mistakes says alot about who we are, and if you were raised
  catholic, this facing of our mistakes has a very specific format:

  as Andrew Santella discribes in his article "The Sin Box"

  "a lot of us lined up inside Catholic churches on Saturday afternoons, waiting to take our turn
  in one of the confessionals. We'd recite the familiar phrases ("Bless me Father, for I have
  sinned"), list our transgressions and the number of times we'd committed them, maybe endure
  a priestly lecture, and emerge to recite a few Hail Marys as an act of penance. In some parishes,
  the machinery of forgiveness was so well-oiled you could see the line move."
  --
  I could quibble about the specifics of the ritual, of calling the priest father,
  or the idea of praying to mary, or I could take a cheepshot at examples of moral hypocrisy
  found in some members of the priesthood, but i'm not going to, because the motivation
  BEHIND catholic confession is understandable, even admirable:

  says one priest:

  "Sin is a fracture. It's a fracture in the relationship that we have with ourself, the
  relationship we have with others and in the relationship we have with God."

  So we can agree with that, and we agree that sin is something we must DO something about.
  we cant simply ignore our faults, and hope they go away.

  That question is WHAT do we do about them, and here is where the catholic tradition diverges
  from the biblical tradition. The most relevant passage in regard to confession of sin is
  found in James 5:16, and in my research i found this book: "Commentary on the Letter of James"

  Remember this book? It dosnt get much air time anymore, but I cant improve on it's wording,
  so let me quote it directly:

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  James states: "The tense of the Greek verbs used here has a continuative sense, as saying...
  “You should get into the habit of admitting your sins to each other.”

  James has previously dealt with matters that exemplify the family-like interest and warm
  concern that should exist within the Christian congregation as a brotherhood. With such a
  spiritual atmosphere, there should indeed be a confidence among its members that contributes
  to freeness of expression, and that confidence could be especially notable when it came to
  acknowledging one’s faults and wrong acts. "
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  "This confessing is not like a “confessional” arrangement where one is viewed as obligated
  to appear and confess all sins in order to obtain absolution from guilt in the eyes of God.
  Although James had previously made specific mention of the congregation elders with regard
  to sick ones needing aid, he here says to “confess your sins to one another,” not limiting
  the matter to certain ones within the congregation. While this is so, it is reasonable that
  the one confessing his sins would seek a person who could be of real help to him in a
  spiritual way. Along with the desire to unburden himself, he doubtless desires the counsel
  and prayer of another. Galatians ... speaks of the readjusting of one who takes a false step
  and shows that it is those “who have spiritual qualifications” who are in a position to do
  this. Elders should have such qualifications, and others in the congregation may also have
  these .... Thus the source of the help is not limited to a certain few.

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  Our sins are not bags of garbage waiting by the curb to be hauled away, making room for new
  ones tomorrow.

  The circular pattern of sin-confession- re-sin may make the confessor FEEL better, but it
  dosnt provide much motivation to encourage them to ACT better. It's like sin is simply another bill
  that must be paid.

  But trying to PAY OFF our mistakes will get us nowhere:

  Rom. 12:9, JB: “Do not let your love be a pretence, but sincerely prefer good to evil.”

  Our goal is not to be perfect, and no matter how disturbing, the sin is, in itself, not
  failure. the Failure is to stop trying. Every day we make a million small decisions that
  defineour true character, and all that God asks of us is that tomorrow we try to be a
  better person that we were yesterday. To aim ourselves in the direction of a version of
  ourselves that is more enlightened, more loving, more tolerant of quirks and barbs of our
  fellowman, more just, more kind, in short, most Christlike. To that end, we need good
  shepherds.Someone on that fine line of being open minded enough to not overreact, but
  with enough moral fiber to guide us to the right path.

  There is strength and healing in honesty.

  but remember that the goal is NOT to appeal to someone sitting in as a judge for god,
  but confide in someone who can truly offer spiritual help. We also must remember that
  no human on earth, not matter how qualified, has the right or ability to forgive or
  withhold forgiveness for a mistake we made against god or our fellow man.
  Surrounding ourselves with, and openly admitting our shortcomings to the right kind of
  friends surely helps, but in the end we all stand alone before our maker, and what we
  did or did not say out loud in a little room in the back of the congregation will not
  be the basis of our worth as a human soul.

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  how is the WT a "literature selling scam"?

  by inkling in

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  i have heard several people refer to the society as publishing company in the business.

  of selling books and magazines.. i just don't see how this view can be valid considering that i almost never see.

  any "voluntary contributions" come in from the door-to-door work.

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  inkling

  I have heard several people refer to the Society as publishing company in the business
  of selling books and magazines.

  I just don't see how this view can be valid considering that I almost NEVER see
  any "Voluntary Contributions" come in from the door-to-door work.

  It would seem that as a publishing company, they would be just breaking even.

  Perhaps there are pulling a profit, but I dont see how it is from "Literature Sales"

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  six billion dead bodies?

  by inkling in

  1. watchtower
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  ok, i am having a bit of an friendly argument with my wife, and i need your help.. (ok, fine- feel free to help her if she turns out to be right).

  does the watchtower actually teach that all others besides witnesses will be.

  killed at armageddon?

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  inkling

  So...in "service", a gun would be statistically more effective than a WT...

  LoL! Excellent dark humor.

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  Why those still in are always still questioned by those long gone!

  by 5thGeneration in

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  i have a problem you may all be able explain to me.. why do so many posters argue posts made by people still active in the 'truth' who still know exactly what's happening right now?.

  it makes no sense.. those of us that are still attending, some in high positions, are often times challenged as to our information.. i had a big fight a long while way back about the society banning watchtower symbols on khs (which they did).

  i read the official wt letter but some posters jumped on me that it was not true.

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  Any idea WHY they made this rule? Any reasons given, bogus or otherwise?

  Maybe the WT symbol was becoming an Idol like the the cross...

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  six billion dead bodies?

  by inkling in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i am having a bit of an friendly argument with my wife, and i need your help.. (ok, fine- feel free to help her if she turns out to be right).

  does the watchtower actually teach that all others besides witnesses will be.

  killed at armageddon?

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  inkling

  thank you for your speedy comments!

  It didnt take long to find these myself on the WT CD:

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  kupp.17-19par.26FromKurukshetratoArmageddon—andYourSurvival***

  26 Of this historical preview of Armageddon, the Bible says: "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:37-39) So the circumstances relating to the end of our world order at Armageddon will be similar to those associated with the ancient Deluge. They will be: (1) The planet Earth and its animal life will survive; (2) the significance of our times is missed by most people through preoccupation with the normal processes of life; (3) the majority of mankind take no note of the divine warning of Armageddon; (4) hence the majority of mankind will be destroyed at Armageddon; and (5) only a small minority of mankind will find favour with God and survive the "war of the great day of God the Almighty." (Revelation 16:14) Consequently, it is most advisable for wise persons to continue to investigate this message about God’s war, and how to survive.

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  w517/15p.446QuestionsFromReaders***

  What this means to us today is that those now living in this time of judgment and who fail for one reason or another to take a stand for Jehovah, and are therefore slain by him at the battle of Armageddon, will not be retained in his memory for a resurrection. That this group will include the majority of humans now living on earth is shown by Jeremiah 25:33: "The slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground." These vast numbers slain by Jehovah and likened to dung strewn over the earth could hardly be considered as being "in the memorial tombs" for Christ to remember and call forth during the Millennium.