I was at the convention and got several Great-Teacher-books - in German. I passed one to a psychologist to comment. I was not able to get a single map because the attendees did not give **** on the "one per household"-announcement. I do not even know someone who was able to get one.
GermanXJW
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Anyone have an extra "Learning from the Great Teacher" book??
by lisaBObeesa ini would very much like a copy of this book.
does anyone have one they would be willing to part with?
i would pay for your trouble and for shipping... .
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The Society Wrote Back To Me
by johnathanseagull inok the background to this story , i wrote to the german bethel, with a screen capture of their web site, where they still promote the pre 1995 definition of the "generation".
i wrote on the premise that i fell away due to this change in 1995 and what is their stance now as i would like to start studying again lmao ( i did tell a few personal white lies, theocratic warfare right?, in order that they felt they could write back to me ).....................never thought they would write back, it took them nearly four weeks to reply, interestingly enough, there is an email address on the letter, my letter is first, so you can get the gist, then their "exact" reply, (with the help of "germanjw" for translation purposes,many thanksgjw ).
the watchtower society.
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Yes, their reply was the truth. But it was not an answer to the question.
Q: Why do you publish old information on your current WebSite?
A: Yes, it is old indeed...
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Coming Out ?
by johnathanseagull indon't you sometimes feel like "coming out" on this board..... as in my name is blah blah and i was in this cong etc etc.
i know some who have done so here.............it's not that i'm embarrassed about giving my details or letting people know here........the only thing that stops me is ...............ahhh f**k it.
jgull.
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GermanXJW
The first thing I did was posting a real picture into my profile.
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elders have revealed confidential matters to their wives or others in the c
by garybuss inelders meet scriptural requirements before being 'appointed by holy spirit.
' knowing this will strengthen your confidence .
what you discuss with an elder will remain strictly confidential.
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An elder in one of my congregations had a device so that his wife could listen to phone calls he made and received. After someone noticed his wife's knowledge he admitted but nothing happened.
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Do you miss being part of something big?
by sleepy in.
at one time i was one of "gods chosen people", part of a special group of people who had exclusive access to hidden truths about the earth and its people.. now of cource i realise i'm just like everyone else and all the puzzles are still there.. kind of miss that feeling sometimes..
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GermanXJW
I am here - so I am part of something big. ;-)
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The cross -- new light?
by robhic ini could swear that i read here a while back that the wts was softening their position on the cross.
i searched the different forums but either i am completely mistaken or my search technique sucked.
i found nothing relative.. anyway, can anyone shed some light (new or otherwise.... thanks,.
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The last careful consideration I remember is:
*** w87 8/15 pp. 28-29 Where Were His Legs? ***
Where Were His Legs?
"VICTIM Twisted on Cross, Unearthed Remains Show." Did you see such a headline in January 1971? Quite possibly, for there were many newspaper articles on some new "evidence" about death on a cross.
After the above title, the article began: "Jerusalem, Jan. 3 (Reuter)-Israeli archaeologists, having unearthed the first material evidence of a crucifixion, said today it could indicate that Jesus Christ might have been crucified in a position different from that shown on the traditional cross."
Did this new evidence actually reveal how Jews in Jesus' time were executed on a cross or a stake? What did archaeologists determine as to the body position of the victim? Did this have a bearing on Jesus' death? And how solid, you may ask, was the evidence?
A Nail in the Heels
Back in 1968 some burial caves were accidentally discovered near Jerusalem. Inside, among the reburied bones, was what seemed to be an outstanding find-heel bones pierced by a rusty spike. Dr. Nico Haas, anatomist and anthropologist of Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School, led an investigation of these particular bones. The respected Israel Exploration Journal (1970, Volume 20, pages 38-59) published his conclusions, which led to some sensational newspaper articles. What were those conclusions?
He reported that what was discovered was nothing less than the remains of a man executed on a cross in the first century. It seemed, basically, that the victim's two heels were nailed together to an upright stake, but the nail bent at the tip when it hit a knot in the wood. After the Jewish victim was dead, relatives had trouble pulling the nail free, so it was left in his heels at burial. Since one nail pierced both heel bones and since it seemed that the leg bones had cut at an angle, Dr. Haas reported that the victim likely was executed in the position shown below. (Dr. Haas also felt that a scratch on an arm bone indicated that the man's arms were nailed to a crossbeam.) You may have seen such a drawing in a newspaper or magazine article. Many were excited about the implications as to how Jesus had died.
Again, though, you do well to ask: Was the evidence reliable, and did it really bear on the manner of Jesus' death?
Reappraising the Heels
In the next few years, some noted scholars, such as Professor Yigal Yadin, began to question conclusions that Haas had reached. Finally, Israel Exploration Journal (1985, Volume 35, pages 22-7) published "A Reappraisal," by anthropologist Joseph Zias (Israel Department of Antiquities and Museums) and Eliezer Sekeles (Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School). They had studied the original evidence, photographs, casts, and radiographs of the bones. You may be surprised at some of their findings:
The nail was shorter than Haas had reported and thus would not have been long enough to pierce two heel bones and the wood. Pieces of bone had been misidentified. There was no bone from a second heel; the nail pierced only one heel. Some bone fragments were from another individual altogether. The scratched arm bone "was not convincing" evidence of nailing to a crossbeam; 'in fact, two similar marks were observed on a leg bone; neither are connected with the crucifixion.'
What conclusions did this new analysis lead to? "Both the initial and final reconstruction of the crucifixion [by Haas] are technically and anatomically impossible when one considers the new evidence . . . We found no evidence of the left heel bone and calculated that the nail was sufficient for affixing only one heel bone . . . The lack of traumatic injury to the forearm and metacarpals of the hand seems to suggest that the arms of the condemned were tied rather than nailed." You see on this page how Zias and Sekeles imagine the man was positioned for execution.
What About Jesus?
So, what does this indicate about how Jesus was executed? Really, not much at all! For instance, as we discussed on page 23, Jesus most likely was executed on an upright stake without any crossbeam. No man today can know with certainty even how many nails were used in Jesus' case. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (1979, Volume 1, page 826) comments: "The exact number of nails used . . . has been the subject of considerable speculation. In the earliest depictions of the crucifixion Jesus' feet are shown separately nailed, but in later ones they are crossed and affixed to the upright with one nail."
We do know that his hands or arms were not simply bound, for Thomas later said: "Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails." (John 20:25) That could have meant a nail through each hand, or the plural "nails" might have reference to nail prints in 'his hands and his feet.' (See Luke 24:39.) We cannot know precisely where the nails pierced him, though it obviously was in the area of his hands. The Scriptural account simply does not provide exact details, nor does it need to. And if scholars who have directly examined the bones found near Jerusalem in 1968 cannot even be sure how that corpse was positioned, it certainly does not prove how Jesus was positioned.
We thus recognize that depictions of Jesus' death in our publications, such as you see on page 24, are merely reasonable artistic renderings of the scene, not statements of anatomic absolutes. Such depictions need not reflect the changing and conflicting opinions of scholars, and the drawings definitely avoid religious symbols that stem from ancient paganism. -
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I got a Professional Opinion of 'Great Teacher' book.
by lisaBObeesa in(i did put this post on the other thread, but it is so far back on the thread i thought i would post it on it's own, too.
i showed page 170 and 171 of this book to a therapist i know to get her opinion.
i did not ask if i could quote her on the internet, so i will not give her name.
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GermanXJW
Would you also provide p. 60 please? I think the first section is crucial to understanding the spirit of the book. (Sorry for not owning not scanner, nor an English edition of the book).
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I got a Professional Opinion of 'Great Teacher' book.
by lisaBObeesa in(i did put this post on the other thread, but it is so far back on the thread i thought i would post it on it's own, too.
i showed page 170 and 171 of this book to a therapist i know to get her opinion.
i did not ask if i could quote her on the internet, so i will not give her name.
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GermanXJW
I, too, sent it to a professional psychologist. After he read some pages he stated: "Again this book is based on FEAR and GUILT. Very bad."
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wow - masturbation lowers risk of prostate cancer
by openminded inhttp://www.reuters.com/newsarticle.jhtml?type=healthnews&storyid=3102498
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There actually was an article that linked their moral codex with avoiding prostate cancer!
[quote]*** g90 4/8 p. 27 The Prostate and Its Problems ***
Bible's Moral Standard a Protection
Good prostate health seems also to relate to the Bible's high moral standard. All males would do well to note two principles in particular:
Faithful to wife: Hebrews 13:4 admonishes: "Let marriage be honorable among all, and the marriage bed be without defilement." Since infection of the prostate gland may be the result of venereal disease, promiscuous sexual activity may lead to prostate trouble as well as other problems.
Guarding one's thoughts: At Matthew 5:28 Jesus Christ counsels: "But I say to you that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Following Jesus' advice can contribute to good prostate health. How? When passion is aroused in a man, the prostate gland prepares for intercourse. Dr. Brosman writes that repeated episodes of arousal without accompanying ejaculation cause an accumulation of fluid in the prostate and the seminal vesicles and can lead to prostate trouble.
Today, many men seek sexual excitement by reading pornographic or sexually stimulating literature or by watching immoral movies or television programs. How much better to follow the apostle Paul's advice: "Let fornication and uncleanness of every sort or greediness not even be mentioned among you, just as it befits holy people."-Ephesians 5:3; see also Philippians 4:8.
Yes, the prostate is another marvel of our Creator. Without it, there would possibly be no procreation. So out of respect for his own body and God's design, every man ought to take steps to keep his prostate gland healthy.[/quote]
Some months later there even was a Letter to the Editors where they had to clarify:
[quote]*** g90 8/8 p. 30 From Our Readers ***
Prostate Problems Your article on prostate problems (April 8, 1990) interested me, as my father needed prostate surgery. Although the article was very informative, the closing comments bothered me. You say that many men seek sexual arousal through pornographic literature. This insinuates that all men who have prostate problems are looking at films or literature of a pornographic nature.
N. R., Federal Republic of Germany
We did not mean to imply that prostate problems are necessarily the result of unchristian conduct. Prostate problems are common among older men-including faithful Christians-for a number of reasons. But since unfulfilled sexual arousal appears to be involved in causing or at least aggravating the problem in some men, it was deemed appropriate to caution our readers against the snare of pornography.-ED.[/quote] -
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Brother Kavelin injured in Santa Monica?
by NikL inwe just received this e mail.
it may or may not be true but it is making the rounds in dubdom.. here ya go.... just a quick note to let you know that out of the 9 dead and some .
injured in the run away car incident at the farmer's market in santa.
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I am sure many JW's will say prayers for him and his family and forget all about the others injured and the family members of those killed, including the infant who passed this morning bringing the total to 10.
I guess that is true. But I feel alike about these inhuman remarks about this particular JW on this board. :-(