The society has changed equally as big doctrines in the past, but could this end the illusion?
I have read a lot of Leolaia posts and have seen the attempt of Scholar to counteract however unconvincingly.
Im not after conspiracy, Im after fact, could they move the end of the gentile times to 1934/35? Does it fit?
Could they just say despite the maths, the answers right?
Leolaia, I want to hear from you on this, you seem to be the authority, is there a solution?
Please, leave the milk to other threads, I want solids!!!
jefferywhat
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Can the WTBTS change 1914 and survive?
by jefferywhat inthe society has changed equally as big doctrines in the past, but could this end the illusion?
i have read a lot of leolaia posts and have seen the attempt of scholar to counteract however unconvincingly.
im not after conspiracy, im after fact, could they move the end of the gentile times to 1934/35?
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What inspired your avatar and your screen name?
by Princess Daisy Boo intell me the story behind the picture.... why is mr flipper mr flipper?
how much do you look like zappa, jk666?
and gopher - are you really a little old man?
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My picture is of a little kid walking around with a consolation advert selling magazines at about two years of age, it reminds me of me when I was that age.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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The new light is that the previously thought cut off date of 1935 is gone.
New anointed ones are not replacements, the unwritten, unofficial whisper campaign is that Jehovah will choose individuals from every Generation of Jehovahs people.
OOOHHHHAAAAHHHHHH goeth the mob!
this was always based on Rutherford asserting that the two classes are quite equal, before this, the GC were seen as filthy little beggers, but after 1935, they were able to sing a similar song, but not the same song....oh wait up, they could sing the same song but in a different key or maybe the same tune but different words......cant remember.
Anyway, post 1935 the partakers dropped from 52465 in '35 to 24850 in '36, that means 50% were fake, they were singing the new song illegally even!!
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DUTCH FILM ON JWs - HEAVY & BIG
by skeeter1 infrom danny hazzard,
this is big.
it appears to be a professional movie (not a you tube job).
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That preview gave me goose bumps!!
Its looks hot, I think that anti witness, anti religious control will make this film appealing to a broad audience.
Im in the film industry and recognize the director, if this goes well in Berlin, it will get global distribution.
My prayers are being answered, the secret Jehovahs Witness club is working.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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5go isnt one of the signs of a true religion growth?
Be happy that many are flocking to the mountain of JWD?
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Why the Watchtowers "War" argument is totally bogus
by drew sagan infrom my own personal experience the watchtowers position on war always appeared to be one of the most difficult issues to navigate.
a number of times when i was first leaving the wts i spoke with jws who all used this argument to show me how "wrong" i was about the "truth".
while i knew the watchtowers arguments where wrong, i had a very difficult time figuring out exactly why it was wrong.
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I agree to a point Drew.
I had a discussion with the General of our Army, who's wife is a witness a few years back and he put a similar point forward.
However, I still think its a morally heightened position to see war as futile, I personally think war is an outdated method for resolving issues, history proves it to be so, but war did stop hitler and it stops a lot now so it has its place.
The way I see it, the witness policy applies in the reality of this system now, they will never be a majority so your analogy is good, but irrelevant as it will never exist.
So you have to argue the position in its form, in its environment.
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Can we PLEASE stop calling bs on people unless we KNOW them?
by avishai insomeone just called "bull$h*t" on a sick poster.
i'm getting really, really fed up with the petty witch hunts and hall monitoring.
fed up, i almost don't want to be on here anymore.
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Oi, it was me and I have apologised.
If I had of known of the background I would not have been so insensitive.
My reply was not meant to offend, it was a light hearted joke.
I saw the crazy spelling and thought she was having a joke.
If you dont know the background, it could be seen in that light.
Has everyone here done a profile on each poster before posing? I think not, I apologized on the thread and hope the original poster accepts my apology. -
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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I suppose what is new now is that the GB is entirely new appart from these two guys......maybe Jaracz doesnt have the support with the newer boys in town.
Maybe barr, after years of letting Jaracz lead, has stood up to him? Dont know, but we will find out soon enough. -
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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jefferywhat
From what I can gather ( reading between the lines) its a Barr v Jaracz situation.
The writing Dept ( Barr) wants to implement change, and the service committee (Jaracz) does not.
So maybe the ones pushing for change are viewed as apostate or those opposing the changes are apostates.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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jefferywhat
Kind of like an in house CO?
Makes sense, however, the spin is to lose the ego edge, so maybe this position would be rotated.