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  Changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the WBTS.

  by jefferywhat in

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  i posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and i really think its worth a discussion.

  leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the wbts.

  a) 1935- no longer cut off for fds .

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  jefferywhat

  True uninformed, thanks for the clarification.
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  So, Kingdom News #37 was intended to start the great tribulation?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

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  i have seen the following statement made on this board several times: 'kn #37 ("the end of false religion is near") was intended by the wbts to provoke the great tribulation.

  that's an intriguing thought.

  i'm just curious where it came from.

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  Nathan natas posted this ink yesterday: http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1990/9004ps.asp
  
  Ok its a little old but it helps us see things from a strategic point of view.
  
  Everyone wants the numbers, the catholic Church and other are happy to share and be ecumenical, if you notice the response from the Mormon leader, he comes across quite reasonable and supportive of the Catholic religion.
  
  It backs up my belief that the JW model is a mix of the Catholic and Jewish model, apart from doctrine that is, culturally very similar in that we are made to feel better ( superior) but at the same time persecuted.
  
  So we are brought up or trained to have both a superiority complex and persecution complex at the same time, very similar to if you were a Jew.
  
  Personally I think the kingdom news tracts are either a strategic move to kill any chance of ecumenism in the developing countries or to make active members feel impeding doom.
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  Changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the WBTS.

  by jefferywhat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and i really think its worth a discussion.

  leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the wbts.

  a) 1935- no longer cut off for fds .

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  jefferywhat

  neverendingjourney, interesting post and one I agree with completely. I was hoping someone felt the same.
  
  They are an army with out a "hero".
  
  They have generals and soldiers but no one to inspire confidence, even in themselves, and they are, for the most part, young enough to have to out live any prediction they make.
  
  I think of Russell going back to his room after he expected to be raptured to heaven in 1914, or Rutherford sitting back with a whisky at Beth-Sarim waiting for his prophecy to be fulfilled or Franz in the Spring of 1976.
  
  This current group of men dont see themselves in this light.
  
  What we need now is some young gun of around 12 get baptized and claim to be of the anointed, grow up and be the new leader!!!!
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  Napoleon Dynamite = CRAP!

  by sonnyboy in

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  my gawd.

  i noticed that the movie got decent reviews and i didn't really hear anything bad about it, so i gave it a chance on hbo tonight.. .

  these stupid ass reviewers got duped.

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  jefferywhat

  Sheesh, I thought I was good t bringing posts back from the dead.
  This is like a time capsule.
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  Catholic bishops speak out!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  "on february 28 the catholic bishops of alta and baja california issued a "pastoral exhortation concerning proselytism.

  " the document mentions the mormons, the jehovah's witnesses, the seventh-day adventists, and pentecostals--in other words, the groups most successful in wooing catholics...".

  (see http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1990/9004ps.asp).

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  jefferywhat

  Nathan, good post, pity its 18 years old.
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  Catholic bishops speak out!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  "on february 28 the catholic bishops of alta and baja california issued a "pastoral exhortation concerning proselytism.

  " the document mentions the mormons, the jehovah's witnesses, the seventh-day adventists, and pentecostals--in other words, the groups most successful in wooing catholics...".

  (see http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1990/9004ps.asp).

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  jefferywhat

  Billy couldnt your comment "Strangely, most Catholics I've known admit that the Church is goofed up, but locally they have many friends plus social events there and it gives them a warm, fuzzy feeling to be told that just being Catholic fast-forwards them through purgatory to heavenly bliss."
  
  Be easily translated to Strangely, most JW's I've known admit that the Church is goofed up, but locally they have many friends plus social events there and it gives them a warm, fuzzy feeling to be told that just being JW's fast-forwards them through this system to earthly bliss?
  
  Same tail, different dog.
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  The "annoited" generation was discarded in 1995...what a liars!!!

  by bigbrotherWT in

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  look what i found doing some simple wt library research in the watchtower 1 of november 1995 (the same about the generation change)

  questions from readers

  at 1 peter 2:9, the king james version calls anointed christians a chosen generation.

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  What is the reference for that?
  
  Its worth a follow up letter.
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  Need Info About CONVENTION CONTRIBUTIONS

  by V in

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  i am looking for someone to comment on the way distrcit convention budgets are calculated, including the inevitable "deficit" that is based on a prearranged dontation to the "worldwide work.".

  this information will be shown in an upcoming watchtower comments video, so i need accuracy, documents, links, anything you can provide.. thank you!.

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  V, I have the entire "godly obedience" convention on disc in mp3 format. there is bound to be an announcement.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are fastest in growth

  by FlipThis in

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  jefferywhat

  Only the Jehovah’s Witnesses,
  the Catholic Church,
  Southern Baptists,
  Mormons,
  the Assemblies of God
  African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church (1.4 million) reported increases; all others either posted declines or flat membership from 2005.
  
  Does that mean they are all blessed?
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  Need Info About CONVENTION CONTRIBUTIONS

  by V in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am looking for someone to comment on the way distrcit convention budgets are calculated, including the inevitable "deficit" that is based on a prearranged dontation to the "worldwide work.".

  this information will be shown in an upcoming watchtower comments video, so i need accuracy, documents, links, anything you can provide.. thank you!.

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  jefferywhat

  One thing I witnessed which confused me regarding assembly halls and contributions.
  
  Johny donates money to do an extension at bethel, along with all the other johny's.
  
  Then an assembly hall is build and they need machinery etc.
  
  The money Johny donated to the WTBTS went towards buying machinery, which just so happens to be needed now by the new assembly hall construction.
  
  So does the WTBTS simply donate it back?
  
  No they sell in or hire it back to the people who provided the funds in the first place therefore more donations are needed to pay for it.
  
  After the assembly hall is built, they dedicate it ( code word for give it over to the WTBTS).
  
  That is crazy and goes towards the "price per publisher" figure.