So my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized. The other day my Dad told me that I was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why I wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so I told him calmly that I have many doubts and if I were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea. He was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "Is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me. I'm not sure if I should just go along with whatever he says and then be expected to get baptized, or if I should try to bring up some doubts I have about the book which may cause problems (my dad has anger issues). What would you do?
BlackWolf
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My Dad wants to study with me
by BlackWolf inso my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
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Did anyone catch the irony in the December JW Broadcast?
by sir82 inthere was an interview with a 107 year old lady who had been a jw since the age of 10 or so.
remembers seeing the "photodrama of creation" when it was still a thing, etc.. so she's explaining about herself & her husband witnessing thru the years, 1930's thru now.. she says at one point, her husband called on a guy who said something like "the last time i got a call from a jw, it was 50 years ago in xyz village by a guy on a bike who said armageddon was coming soon.".
the lady was just so tickled, because the guy on the bike was her husband, who happened to run into the same guy (who remembered him) 50 years later.. and i'm thinking "wait a minute....her husband said 'armageddon was coming soon' 50 years earlier...obviously he was completely wrong.
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BlackWolf
I think he was riding a little white horse, not a bike. That video really disturbed me, imagine preaching all those decades, wasting all those years, and what does she get for it? Nothing. How could someone remain faithful that long and never doubt? Maybe she has nothing else to look forward to. -
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Angry and scared
by BlackWolf ini feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.
all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".
it really makes me sick sometimes.
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BlackWolf
Pete zahut: I appreciate your advice a lot but the thing is that i have done exactly those things and it only seems to anger my parents even more. Every time they ask I just say that it's my own decision to make when I'm ready, and then my dad just says "well, when will you be ready?". It's really frustrating because if I try to actually talk to them about my doubts things will end badly like they did last time. They of course won't accept any reasoning unless it is from the watchtower. I fear that once they realize the full extent of my doubts they will kick me out. My parents shun several of our family members who were never baptized because "they turned their back on Jehovah". I know they will do the same to me.
Thanks everybody for your advice, it's nice to not have to feel like I am all alone.
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Angry and scared
by BlackWolf ini feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.
all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".
it really makes me sick sometimes.
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BlackWolf
I feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy. All she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou". It really makes me sick sometimes. I Know she is just trying to scare me into wanting to get baptized. She's been doing it all the time lately, she asks me almost everyday if I want to get baptized and my answer is always that I don't know. I wish I had more courage to speak up and tell her how I really feel, but I'm terrified. I don't want my parents to treat me like I'm a bad person. The last times I've tried to talk about my doubts didn't end well. But at the same time the thought of having to stay in this religion for the rest of my life makes me feel like taking a knife to my throat. My mom always says that life is only worse out in the "world", but I know that can't be true. I will be 18 next year and I'm so scared about the decision I'm going to have to make. I have no friends or family that I'm close to, I have nobody. I can't seem to find a job to save up money either, so I don't really know what to do. Thanks for reading this, sometimes I just need to get things out of my system. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot
by Simon inwhy were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
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BlackWolf
I'm a born in, though I don't consider my parents to be "idiots" necessarily. My dad was born in, and doesn't know anything else. My mom converted when she was a teen after her mom started studying. They were both abused as children and I can understand their need for hope. Neither have much for an education, though I don't think they are unintelligent. They have just been manipulated by their own fear clinging to the one thing that feels safe and familiar, the cult. They are very judgemental of everything and everyone and downright cruel at times, but I forgive them anyways. Brainwashing does that sort of thing to people I guess.
As for me, I never really believed. It was just something forced on me. There were many times where I felt terrified of Jehovah and Armageddon, but I never felt like I loved god or had any kind of "relationship" with him. So I wouldn't consider myself an idiot either since I never really fell for anything.
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Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore
by Tallon ini remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.
my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.
secondly i had to work with these people.
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BlackWolf
Eating holiday candy and birthday cake, saluting the flag at school, lying about being a jw, watched rated r movies, watched twilight with a worldly girl, read a few erotic novels, masturbated, cussed, listened to music with cuss words, read about magic and did a few wiccan spells, read many books about vampires, werewolves, and wizards, dissobeyed my parents, and i hardly ever read the watchtower or awake. Jeez am I worldly or what?! Lol
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New Video Series On Courtship May Open Some Eyes
by JW_Rogue inso the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.
it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.
https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.
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This woman was too selfish and immature to marry a decent guy, he deserves better. She's an embarrassment to jw women everywhere. A lot of guys like sports and cars, his life doesn't revolve around you all the time. This was a pain to watch and unrealistic, along with every other jw video ever made.
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Feeling very lonely
by BlackWolf inthe past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.
the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.
every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.
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BlackWolf
I appreciate everyone's advice. I usually try to stay positive and pretend to be happy, but sometimes it really gets to me. A few weeks ago I tried to talk to my dad about how I didn't have any friends and he completely freaked out about it and started hitting himself. I wasn't trying to blame him or anything, but I guess he took it that way. My mom told me never to talk about it again. I'm pretty sure he's a little mentally unstable, and it scares me sometimes.
I know everyone isn't out to get me, it's really just a few people that have treated me badly and spread some false rumors. I try to be a nice person and I'm never mean back, and i'm sure some of the other teens feel the same way as me. I guess the stress of jw life can just bring out the worst in people sometimes.
I live in the panhandle, so I don't think the storm will hit here, at least I hope :)
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Feeling very lonely
by BlackWolf inthe past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.
the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.
every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.
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BlackWolf
The past few months I've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless. The few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and I'm feeling like more of an outcast than I already was. Every meeting I just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, I feel really lonely and unloved. :( Idk why people treat me this way because I didn't even do anything wrong.
Anyways I've just been feeling pretty low and I haven't felt motivated to do much schoolwork or anything. I don't even ride horses anymore because the trainer at the barn I went to was really mean and bitchy towards me. I feel like everyone hates me for some reason and that I can't escape. I wish I knew how I could get out of my predicament but it feels meaningless because once my family starts shunning me I will feel even more lonely. Sorry if I sound whiney I just have no one else to talk to.
Also the reason I haven't been too active on here is because I'm afraid of my parents finding out. I overheard my dad threatening to my brothers that he could see what they do on the internet through the router? It scared me at first but he obviously hasn't since he would know that I've been on sites like this. Can he really see the sites that I visit that easily?
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Bunker elder Meme
by aintenoughwiskey ini noticed this on reddit.
they shouldn't have all the fun.
ill get it started.
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BlackWolf
Lol I always thought that guy looked like a total asshole.