Thanks everyone, I havent gone into great detail or anything, just that I have very strict religious parents. Its just that some other kids wanted to hang out with me outside of camp, and of course they don't understand why I can't do that (because its ridiculous). I don't want people to think I'm weird or anything, so I only try to explain when its necessary. It's just that its been so long since I've been around normal kids that I don't really know how to act around them anymore and not seem like a weirdo. :(
BlackWolf
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I feel frustrated
by BlackWolf inhello all, things for the most part have been somewhat better for me because my parents haven't talked about baptism or anything recently.
i got a scholarship to go to art camp for a few weeks which has been fun (since its free, my parents didn't refuse) but it has also been very nervewracking for me.
i haven't been around any non jws for more than a year and its like being in a different world, a world where people are actually real and genuine and not mindless drones.
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I feel frustrated
by BlackWolf inhello all, things for the most part have been somewhat better for me because my parents haven't talked about baptism or anything recently.
i got a scholarship to go to art camp for a few weeks which has been fun (since its free, my parents didn't refuse) but it has also been very nervewracking for me.
i haven't been around any non jws for more than a year and its like being in a different world, a world where people are actually real and genuine and not mindless drones.
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BlackWolf
Hello all, things for the most part have been somewhat better for me because my parents haven't talked about baptism or anything recently. I got a scholarship to go to art camp for a few weeks which has been fun (since its free, my parents didn't refuse) but it has also been very nervewracking for me. I haven't been around any non jws for more than a year and its like being in a different world, a world where people are actually real and genuine and not mindless drones. Im beginning to feel very frustrated though because ive tried to explain my situation to the other kids and the teacher and no one seems to understand me. :( Its very hard having people who want to be your friend when your not allowed to hang out with them. I try to explain to them why we can't be friends but they don't understand :( I feel so guilty and I don't want them to think I don't like them.
Any advice on how I can make people understand my situation and how serious it is? Some of the kids have threatened to go complain to my dad and its really scaring me, like maybe I shouldn't of said anything about the cult to them. I'm starting to feel so alone like nobody in the world understands me, but at least I have you guys on this forum.
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The last video in the 2016 convention...
by problemaddict 2 in...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.
bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.
he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.
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The obsessive devotion, unchain utopia, natural corruption, etc. are songs by the metal band Epica, not audiomachine. :) Although it's still shocking to know they would use such "worldly" music in videos. Have they ever did something like this before? Its undeniable that they, at least the GB are awake because why else would you be looking for such an emotional response? As Oldskool mentioned in another topic, they are desperate. Their doctrines no longer make any sense so they have to pull at peoples heartstrings instead.
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Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study
by Saltheart Foamfollower init looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.
2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.
3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.
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My dad is the watchtower study conductor at my hall and he asks questions besides the ones in the paragraph. I think if you ask extra questions they just have to be relevant to what the paragraph is about.
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A Man about a Dawg!!!
by Defianttruth inone of the things i could never understand is people handing over absolute control to these charlatans.
i know over the years they have bashed owning pets for various reasons.
complete stupidity.
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What a nice story! Animals give me so much joy in my life, I want to work at the vets office when I'm old enough.
I have a little poodle/bichon frise mix dog named Yuki. He is really what keeps me going everyday. He's my only real friend and loves me unconditionally, unlike some people. He is really smart and I even taught him to do agility. Of course I can't enter him in an agility show because its too "competitive" :(
Whenever I get home from a frustrating and lonely day out in service or at a meeting he is always there to lick my face make me feel better. Sometimes I love animals so much more than people, they don't lie or cheat or control you out of greed. They love you with all their hearts and are always loyal. :)
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Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study
by Saltheart Foamfollower init looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.
2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.
3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.
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I think that sounds like a good idea, as long as you don't make it too obvious. They will chew you out on anything they can. Getting people to use their brains for once will definitely help.
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"Hope for what we do not see" - Review
by problemaddict 2 ini give it 3 thumbs down.. the video starts with an ambulance in peru.
the ambulance people look at an id and a no blood card in spanish.. quick flash away to now and a happy family of a couple with 2 young boys.
all good kids it collages their everyday life, all centered around theocratic activities.
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I'm getting baptized
by BlackWolf ini know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
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BlackWolf
Thank you so much everyone. Sorry i havent been on here for quite a few days. :) My parents haven't mentioned baptism since I talked to them last so I'm hoping we can just forget this incident for the time being. I've told them I'm confused so that should hold them off for a while.
Ive really thought about things recently, i will be 18 next summer, and even though it will be hard I know I can move away then. Even though I feel really depressed sometimes I still try to have hope for the future and I think about all the things I want to do once I'm free. I can't just give in and forever live in fear of my parents and the Borg. Every time I go to the hall or participate in some jw activity I get a feeling of almost unbearable anxiety, like I need to run away from this place and these people. I can't be baptized and endure this forever! I thank you all for helping me to come to this realization. I'm going to let this thread go now. :)
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I'm getting baptized
by BlackWolf ini know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
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Thank you all for your amazing support!
I talked to my dad about the generation doctrine last night, I showed him job 42:16 where it says a generation is 35 years. I said I didn't understand how more than a hundred years could be one generation. But of course he just regurgitated the the same watchtower crap that doesn't make any sense. I still said I didn't understand (I honestly don't, how could a generation be more than a hundred years?!) It didn't really go any where though, he wasn't able to explain it very well... He said he needed to do more research. Hopefully this proves that I don't have enough understanding to get baptized. I did as a few people on here suggested and let him come up with an answer, but he didn't come up with anything very convincing.
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I'm getting baptized
by BlackWolf ini know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
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Thank you all so much for your help! Everyone here is so much more kind and understanding than any jw I have ever met.
Last night I gathered my courage and I told my father the truth, that I am not ready to be baptized and I'm only doing it to make him happy. He asked me why I wasn't ready, and I said I have too many doubts ( whether this is gods organization, governing body, 1914, overlapping generation ). He said we would study these topics over the next few weeks and then I can make my decision.
Anybody have any advice on how I can easily disprove these topics without sounding like an apostate? This is my big opportunity to possibly wake up my dad!!