so much for a loving god if you're a bible apologist and take genesis literally.
"after he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the garden of eden cherubim and a *flaming sword* flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
" genesis 3:24 niv .
Well lets see:
Adam lived 930 yrs.
Seth, Adams son lived 912 yrs.
E'nosh Seths son lived 905 yrs.
Ke'nan, E'noshs son lived 910 yrs.
Ma-hal'a-ele lived 895 yrs.
Ja'red lived 962 yrs.
E'noch lived 365 yrs. and God took him.
Me-thu'se-lah lived 969 yrs.
La'mech lived 777 yrs.
Then Noah had 500 yrs. when he began the construction of the great ark. Now I'm not mentioning from the great flood to the birth of Christ. So how many years is that? are you good in math?
-Aleman
so much for a loving god if you're a bible apologist and take genesis literally.
"after he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the garden of eden cherubim and a *flaming sword* flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
" genesis 3:24 niv .
Hey Marmot,
When God placed that sword to protect the tree of life he did it for two purposes.
1) Not allow man to live forever. &
2) The war against Satan is on!
It simbolizes the end of the perfect world God had planned for us and the start of the new world of hard painful work and death. All because Adam & Eve disobeyed.
-Aleman
why do they treat the like the have sinned a great sin ( oh wait i might of answered it doh!
) when they are just down a bit..
I think most of the people here are right, however it also depends on what the person is depressed of. If it has to do with break-ups, car problems, self-image, or other little things then they figure you will soon get over it.
But, if it has to do with a dead son, father, mother, near death experiance, or other major traumatic situations, they will be there with you. Sometimes, the whole congragation will show up and try to help in anything they can.
When my wife had a miscarrige (I hope I spelled this right) the whole cong. went to our house and helped clean, cook, study, and pay most of our bills. They were great!
-Aleman
what is your stance on the devil, satan, demons etc?
personally i find the concept of the devil as presented in scripture to be purely symbolic of humankind's ability to chose to do good or evil.
the development of a moral compass unique to each person.. with many ancient beliefs, people tried to humanize concepts in order to better understand.
I say it as I see it (or in this case read it). Believe or don't believe in a spiritual side of life. The only true theory comes from India where they are able to get to a metaphisical plane while meditating. To this they can find an inter-peace and tranquility in their spiritual side.
There is also the matter of the feelings one has, I don't know exactly the feeling you may be having by just looking at you, but you have them. And because I know you have feelings, I try to maintain a certin amount of respect so as to not hurt your feelings.
Satan is real even if you don't see him. Jehovah is real too.
I guess only those with true intrest in spiritual awareness will get what I said. All others are only reading this and dead spiritualy while citizising and trying to find faults or holes everywhere.
-Aleman
what is your stance on the devil, satan, demons etc?
personally i find the concept of the devil as presented in scripture to be purely symbolic of humankind's ability to chose to do good or evil.
the development of a moral compass unique to each person.. with many ancient beliefs, people tried to humanize concepts in order to better understand.
Of course you haven't seen pearls, sweetface2233, YOU ARE A SWINE!!!
hi i'm18 and am a pb going to college.
i have not been inmeaninful contact with anyone my age for the last 2 years.
no prom for me.
Hi there,
First I must admit that everyone here is sort of correct when they say not to get baptized. You see, you get baptized if you trully in your heart, mind, and body want to serve Jehovah for the rest of your life.
This is a decision you and only you can make. Not your parents, not your best friends, not your neighbor, or any one in any of these forums. You must believe that there is a creator, a Satan, sin, a Jesus Christ, and above all how you fit in this whole world around you.
Don't be 'warm' or undecisive in the important things such as your spirituallity, read the Bible and see if this is what you want. You don't have to read any publication from the Brothers if you don't want to, just read the Bible. Find information from other sources besides WT publications.
I hope you make your own decision and stick with it, remember, It's your life and you live by your decisions.
-Aleman
i just want to start off by saying that i am not a jehovah's witness...about six months ago i started dating a really great guy, and about 2 months into our relationship he shared with me that he was disfellowshipped for a relationship he was in (he was living with his girlfriend).
this is so difficult for him because his family lives in the area, and being segregated from them is very hard for him.
recently, he has been considering an attempt to be reinstated (i'm sorry if i am not using the correct terminology...most of what i know about the religion i have learned online).
Dear Jessica,
You could also try to find out what's going on in his faith and try to have an open mind when you go into a meeting. I prefer you go in a Sunday meeting with him, just to start off and then judge for yourself if this is worth staying with him or leaving him.
I once had the same problem, but I wanted to know what she was getting into so I followed her one day. I listened to the preacher and watched as they all participated. I was quite impressed that I am now a member and also I got married with her.
My advise is to look up many sources of information and experience it for yourself with an open mind to see if this is something for you. Otherwise, I tell you the truth, he will leave you. "Give peace a chance."
-Aleman
what is your stance on the devil, satan, demons etc?
personally i find the concept of the devil as presented in scripture to be purely symbolic of humankind's ability to chose to do good or evil.
the development of a moral compass unique to each person.. with many ancient beliefs, people tried to humanize concepts in order to better understand.
Truth be said! those who have little to no faith will always want to 'see to believe' to actually believe. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!!!
I think that if you can trust that air exists by feeling it on your cheek and hair and not see it, Why would it be so difficult to actually believe in a creator named Jehovah and his arch-nemesis Satan!
By not believeing is to have Satan win already! It also means you will soon see the glory of the Almighty and then you will be the many who will yell 'WOE!' when he cleans this world of the unfaithful and unbelievers.
Why do I keep thowing pearls to a bunch of dirty, worldly, selfish pigs like you!
-Aleman
what is your stance on the devil, satan, demons etc?
personally i find the concept of the devil as presented in scripture to be purely symbolic of humankind's ability to chose to do good or evil.
the development of a moral compass unique to each person.. with many ancient beliefs, people tried to humanize concepts in order to better understand.
Hello All,
I do believe in the Almighty, there fore the belief of Satan in present. I must say, many of you are quite wrong in the whole idea of Satan.
There is the faithful Job who was attacked by Satan without Job knowing it was he. He thought it was God who was punishing him.
Then there is the devils. In Gen. 6 I can positivly say that the angels that came down to take any and all the beautiful nearly perfect women and that they left the celestial organisation of Jehovah to please themselves.
It is because of satan and his minions of devils that this world is the way it is. War, rape, greed, selfishness, it all boils down to the teachers of all evil.
I mean there was a time when the world wasn't this way. But since the great war everything changed. Fathers were taken away due to war. Those fathers who could have taught their children better morals died, leaving the children alone to solve problems of the world by themselves.
Then they teach their kids what they learn, but by then WW2 came around taking more great fathers and the cycle continues.
May God bless the Bros. & Sis. of the organisation,
-Aleman
jw is banned here.
a few years back, one guy (xjw) informed the police of their meeting place.
it was raided,the bros were fined and a few jailed.
Hello Spiritboi,
I know this is a tricky subject so let me say what I remember.
Sinning against the holy spirit is sinning while knowing it is a sin, and yet you carry out such sin, and you don't ask for forgivness for such sin.
Example: Judas sinned against the holy spirit because he knew that Jesus was Christ and yet he carried out due to his greed and never asked forgiveness. Instead he hanged himself.
I hope this was helpful.
May God bless all the Brothers & Sisters in the organisation,
-Aleman
