http://www.john-daly.com/tar-2000/summary.htm.
summary:.
climate has always changed and nothing we can do will stop it from changing.. .
Our problems are caused by useless governments who have failed to invest in alternatiave fuel...
And why have they failed to invest? In part, because the same interests that defy Global Warming warnings want you to continue in the status quo (and keep buying their oil). And, in part, because we mere mortals are willing to go along with the status quo (because it's so convenient). In representative governments, it's the mere mortals that have the responsibility to make their voices heard.
if i ask you to do something for me, can i trust you?
if i choose you, i will give you a reward.
(of course, it is legal)
Maybe this is a clue to be out-of-here. or is he in the minority....what do you thinK?
I think the wide world of diversity can be found in the microcosm of this board. I didn't view it as a test.
Restrangled, I think maybe you got a button pushed? Not trying to be rude, it just seems a little...reactive.
the science is settled.
special interests do not want you to think that it is.
"in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.
Possible negative externalities aside...
Hmm..."possible" negatives...try breathing carbon monoxide. <grin>
Thats ridiculous. In the early days of the automobile there were several technologies vying for the market. There were electric and steam powered cars. The internal combustion engine running on an oil distillate emerged as the winner-because it was the best. The British Navy switched its fleet from coal to oil despite a domestic dearth of production for the same reasons.
Methinks things may have changed in the last 150 years or so.
Why the internal combustion engine won over it's competitors, which were at times faster, quieter? Seems marketing led the effort, and what followed was more development work for the internal combustion engine which provided a variety of benefits (less maintenance, higher reliability, and the like) in that arena. Consumers didn't say, "Hey, look at the thermal capacity of petrol! I pick that one!" It was a much more complex social and business phenomena.
The British Navy switched to coal for a variety of logistical and handling reasons, with energetic efficiency as an "oh, yeah, that too". If the argument is still "gas is the best because it's so darned efficient", then it falls short. The choice was not so much "Oh, yeah, oil!", it was "Gotta dump coal". At that time there were few alternatives - today there are more alternatives.
Gasoline is simply not "the best" any more, if it ever was. It is convenient. And it has an ever increasing social and environmental cost.
Who are you to decide what a consumer needs? It is up to them to decide what is in their economic interest. Consumers want speed, comfort, safety and range.
It is up to a society to determine what selfish interests cannot be tolerated. Consumerism without a balancing social conscience will eventually be Darwinned out, I would hope. Of course, plain old growing up will sometimes do the trick, too. Have you noticed? Consumers these days seem to actually want less dependence on oil. Kinda why SUV and Magnum V8 sales are in the dumps.
Why don't we have DDT? Why don't we have Thalidomide? Why don't we have lawn darts? They were all efficient and highly accessible.
The problem is not the energy source but energy storage. Batteries have have had a very low energy density compared to fossil fuels. This could now change with Lithium Ion and Lithium Iron battery technology. Hydrogen for the same reasons. It is the least dense element and requires crazy pressures to even be a consideration.
I see a crack in the wall...
On the contrary, that is the core issue.
The core issue is survival, public health. I remind you again: coal heating in Great Britain.
The reason it is entrenched is because it was "the best". It has been the best, because of its convenience. Fill 'er up. Less than 10 minutes later off you go for another 400 miles.
Another crack..."was". "Has been". Only now, it's "best" due to convenience. I thought we'd end up agreeing.
Convenience comes and goes, and is constantly changing. This too will pass.
Believe it or not, I am not "anti-car". I do like to see a thing called what it is, though - gas is convenient. It is convenient more because of marketing and profit motives, and because vested interests have indeed dismantled or sabotaged alternatives. Particularly today, alternatives are ever more viable and preferable.
isn't life crazy?
i just spent 30 days selling christmas trees.
i set there in the rain and cold playing christmas music helping people buy their tree...blessing each and every person who did.... i looked up into the sky and wondered where i will be 10 years from now.
I woldn't want to know - I'd obsess over when the Big Tunring Points were occuring and When Is It Going To Happen. Kinda like waiting for Armageddon - again.
i haven't been on this forum very long but man o man have i learned a lot from you all!!!
it is really helping to eradicate the guilt of leaving and i am learning how to think again.
you have such wonderful and well researched information that it blows my mind.
And Thank You - I appreciate your posts.
had an acoustic gig last weekend.
tell me what you guys think...here's a compilation of several songs we did:.
http://www.youshare.com/view.php?file=compilation.mp3.
Well done. Not my cup of tea, but very respectable.
if i ask you to do something for me, can i trust you?
if i choose you, i will give you a reward.
(of course, it is legal)
I'm intrigued...go on.
this is either going to make you laugh, or feel sorry for her, or, like me, both... i'm so glad i've escaped this insanity!!
a sister sent me this email yesterday; notice her new email address, and why she changed it.
(i've changed the email address and removed the names to protect her identity...).
Wha-wha-what??
Next step: Proclaim Jehovah's name silently so that worldly people don't know how to pronounce it - Jehovah's good name on the lips of the unclean? Unthinkable!
EDIT: PS - WTS should stop printing His name on paper - it tears! it soils! it burns!
decided to read the bible from start to finish as i have never done so properly.. some questions that i have and that some of you might be able to help me with are.
1/ in genesis 1 it says god created the earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th.
in fact in vs 31 of chapter 1- with refernece to the 6th day the bible writer even refers to the evening and the morning of that paticular day.
Maybe Genesis is not so anti-evolution after all.
<grin!>
if i ask you to do something for me, can i trust you?
if i choose you, i will give you a reward.
(of course, it is legal)
If I ask you to do something for me, can I trust you?
Only if I say Yes.
