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  "New" Pioneer School

  by sovereign in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any news about the "new" pioneer school?

  anyone who has some material available?

  has the "shining as illuminators"-book been updated?

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  ^^^
  Where in the hell did you find this updated photo of Ted Jaracz?!?
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  WTS response to 9/11

  by Robert7 in

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  2. friends

  i'm sure this has been discussed in length, but i'm a newbie :).

  one item that really shocked me, back when i believed this was 'the truth' was the lack of response to the 9/11 attacks.

  as all of us, we were really shocked and really were looking for comfort at the meeting (school/service meeting).

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  The WTS response to 9/11 was a big reason why I began to fade as well. Our TMS/SM meeting was that day, and I remember wanting to skip the meeting™ and watch the coverage on TV (worked all day, didn't really get to see the events unfold live like most people). My FIL called us and pretty much chastised my wife for even thinking of skipping the meeting, especially when I had sound panel responsibilities™. The only mention of it at the meeting was during the closing prayer, when they asked for Jehovah to be with the "brothers and sisters™ who were affecting by the events of the day." How cold and heartless!

  I also heard the same stories from Bethel™, how people were forced into continuing the structure of their day, with no thoughts or concerns about what was occurring just across the river. One Bethelite™ mentioned to a friend of mine that he was extremely scarred by what was going on, and they didn't give a s**t. It was about printing more magazines! Then to hear they didn't let worldly™ people in for relief who had to flee Manhattan!!

  Can you tell this is one item that just infuriates me to no end about this organization!!!
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  anyone see the CNN story on I-35?

  by The Humper in

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  2. friends

  so there is a highway that stretches from tx up to mn.

  its called i-35, and because isa.

  35:8 mentions a road and a highway some stupid christian church group in tx goes out there to pray for the sins of the people and buisnesses on the highway.

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  I live in Indiana, right off highway I-69. I pray for it, too!

  JK

  I like it!
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  How does WT treat illegal Mexican immigrant JWs?

  by skeeter1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how does the wt treat illegal mexicans who are also jehovah's witnesses?

  if the mexican was a publisher or pioneer in mexico, does the society allow them to be full, fledged publishers or pioneers here in the united states?

  skeeter

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  Let's see what the official 'elder handbook', "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All The Flock" pg 138-9 has to say about the matter, shall we

  If a person approaching baptism is an

  illegal alien, he

  should be urged to do what he can to rectify his status

  with regard to the law of the land .

  (w77 3/15 pp. 191-2)

  The Christian congregation today follows a course harmonious

  with the Biblical pattern of the apostle's dealing

  with the case of Onesimus . (Philem .

  8-22)

  Overseers are not to police the lives of the brothers,

  nor are they obligated to become acquainted with

  all the details of civil and criminal law so as to

  enforce these . Just as they do not check to see if

  someone's home meets every detail of the building

  code, they do not investigate in order to determine

  whether a person has satisfied every detail as to his

  legal situation in the country before allowing him

  to get baptized or to continue in the congregation .

  Baptism would not be denied such a person, but he

  would not be viewed as exemplary and would not be

  used in any responsible position in the congregation .

  The same would apply to a person who uses fraudulent

  or illegal identification .

  A brother who has notified the authorities of his illegal

  status and filed papers to resolve his situation would not

  be restricted as to representing the congregation in

  prayer, sharing in teaching, or being appointed as a

  pioneer, a ministerial servant, or an elder if otherwise

  qualified .

  Such privileges may be extended even though the

  authorities do not act promptly on his request for

  permission to remain in the country. He is no

  longer a fugitive .
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  A JW's Reaction to the Colorado Church Shootings

  by fattire5010 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just to show you the mindset of the typical jw.

  i was talking with my mother-in-law who lives only 15 miles from one of the colorado churches where the shootings took place yesterday.

  when i expressed my sympathies for the victims and the community, she basically said in a cold-hearted, remorseless way; what do you expect for babylon the great, especially in a church where the priest is a sexual deviant!.

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  She must have forgotten the non-jw husband who went to the KH and shot at the elder who had slept with this man's wife and at his wife. It made the news when it happened.

  Exactly...had the same thing occured at a KH, my God it would have been the worst tragedy ever. But because it happened in a church of Christendom™, big deal, who cares.

  And you're right Steve, I'm sure many JW's felt bad about what happened. It just sucks that many of them are so self-righteous and hard-hearted that any tragedy involving other God-fearing religions isn't a big deal. It only is a big deal to them when it affects the small circle of the JW world.
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  A JW's Reaction to the Colorado Church Shootings

  by fattire5010 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just to show you the mindset of the typical jw.

  i was talking with my mother-in-law who lives only 15 miles from one of the colorado churches where the shootings took place yesterday.

  when i expressed my sympathies for the victims and the community, she basically said in a cold-hearted, remorseless way; what do you expect for babylon the great, especially in a church where the priest is a sexual deviant!.

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  Just to show you the mindset of the typical JW. I was talking with my mother-in-law who lives only 15 miles from one of the Colorado churches where the shootings took place yesterday. When I expressed my sympathies for the victims and the community, she basically said in a cold-hearted, remorseless way; “What do you expect for Babylon the Great, especially in a church where the priest is a sexual deviant!”

  I just couldn’t believe the lack of humanly affection. I was so angered, I proceeded to remind her of the sexual deviancy in their own faith and the recent coverage on NBC Nightly News about the pedophilia cover-up. She of course, in a smart-ass way, stated those media reports are all lies fabricated from Satan’s system of things™.

  I want to thank everyone here for exposing the TRUTH about “the truth™” and the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society INCORPORATED. As a former goodie-goodies MS™ who gave several public talks™, I’ve been lurking for sometime, and appreciate JWD and my family for helping to get me closer to telling the WT to eff off. This sham needs to be stopped!
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  Beards and dress clothes...

  by B_Deserter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i often wonder about the unwritten rule in kingdom halls that a witness should be in dress clothes and brothers cannot have beards (the beard rule i think is pretty much us-only though).

  sure, they won't stop you from coming to a meeting in your work clothes and they might even treat you fine.

  but, if you want to go anywhere in the congregation (i.e.

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  I think if Jesus came back right now and examined the organisation using his Father's name, He would be disgusted as he was with the Scribes and Pharasees. All those thousands of rules that burden the people - rules that come from man not God.

  This statement hits the nail on the head! The TRUTH about "the truth (TM)".

  How I would love to shove this comment in the face of the next hounder who tries to corner me at my place of employment.
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  BEER THREAD

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. jw
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  i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.

  what do you like?

  let's edumicate one another!

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  <<-- Guess what my favorite would be from my name?

  Of course, I've come to discover several great new beers recently as well, including R.F.'s new favorite

  And when I visit Wisconsin, nothing beats New Glarus! I've never had a bad New Glarus beer!

  

  BTW, I'm beginning to think I'm gonna like it here at JWD!
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  Yep, I Gave A Public Talk

  by mavie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can we see the fulfillment of this today?

  these are just a few of the prophecies recorded in the bible which have seen their fulfillment.

  another evidence of divine authorship can be found in the practical guidance the bible gives.

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  My outlines got the heave-ho when I began to fade. It was one of many things related to "The Truth" I was extremely happy to trash.
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  JW Stance on GLOBAL WARMING

  by nomoreguilt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you can see, i haven't been on the board long.

  so, i don't know if this has ever been discussed.

  so, for my own information i would like to know where and how they stand, wt art.

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  My JW mother-in-law reminds us all the time about global warming, and how 'man is bringing Earth to a ruin' and God will step in "any day now"...in fact, a bunch in her old congo got together and watched Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" to prove that the end is near.

  She thinks that such fear will stop our fade....