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  The politics of religion in America

  by nvrgnbk in

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  2. friends

  james carrollthe politics of religion in america by james carroll december 17, 2007 what in the name of god is going on in american politics?

  mitt romney's "faith in america" speech, riddled with mistaken assertions about religion, was itself a warning.

  but other presidential candidates, debate moderators, pundits, and religious leaders all share a dangerous confusion about questions of faith and citizenship.

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  Exterminator

  Carroll's article is exactly the way American religion is perceived here in China or in Europe. Completely sick.
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  The Biblical Flood Thoroughly Trashed

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there are many new ones on this board who may not have seen this.

  my old friend alan feurerbacher who has done an unbelievable amount of scholarly research on many subjects must have spent about two or three thousand years researching virtually every aspect of the biblical flood story, and am providing the link to this subject (together with links to other excellent work by him).

  it's long and detailed and definitely not for those who get bored with more than four sentences of information and sound bites.

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  Exterminator

  So, to summarize the Bible: God created mankind and hides himself from us ever since, except to exterminate us from time to time.

  I also believe in God, but the Bible really makes it very hard.
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  New Yearbook stats for 2007 now out!

  by Dogpatch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the report is out!.

  http://www.watchtowernews.org/2007report.pdf.

  cooking the books with 3% increase??.

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  Exterminator

  The history of the WT is a long series of lies, blunders and scandals. Yet, that organization could thrive because it successfully controls information. The greatest part of the world has very limited access to objective info about the WT. What those people see, if they ever encounter the WT thing at all, is only glossy magazines promising a quick solution to all problems. The sad reality is that we humans are easy to manipulate, just like you and I were. The end of the WT is nowhere in sight.

  Actually, I would even expect them to thrive better than a 3% increase, despite the scandals. There must be something else that keeps their increase down. I suggest it is simply the sheer madness of that cult that repels people and discourages many among the ranks and file.
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  Now widow wants MONEY because of no blood transfusion

  by VanillaMocha73 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/6dc0ac2739be6e63862573b000160633?opendocument

  should not she just get a job?

  or express her faith that jehovah will take care of her?

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  Exterminator

  Reading the title of this thread "Now widow wants MONEY because of no blood transfusion", I thought she was suing the WTS
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  personal beliefs re: life after death...none since leaving JW.... You?

  by oompa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not have a clue anymore.

  having just accepted my own mortality, what the hey does happen at death?

  i never thought about it before, because i did not have to.

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  Exterminator

  Sorry, I meant, my dumb computer. Not that I don't think of dumping it, sometimes...
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  personal beliefs re: life after death...none since leaving JW.... You?

  by oompa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not have a clue anymore.

  having just accepted my own mortality, what the hey does happen at death?

  i never thought about it before, because i did not have to.

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  Exterminator

  I guess it would help to first know what is life. Our brains are wonderful machines, but no machine is alive, in the sense of being aware of anything. My brain cells are no more alive than the chips of my dump computer. The fact is that we simply have no clue as to what generates our conscious existence.

  So, if we don't know what life is, it's no wonder that the question of death is still keeping us busy.

  The survival of our conscious existence doesn't seem to make much sense. You would have to believe that, while some moderate brain damage might send you into coma, more extensive, irreparable, damage would awaken you to extra-bodily life. Strange.

  The Bible is quite confuse on the afterlife. Jesus himself mixes up a Jewish belief in a resurrection with references to the Greek belief in survival of the soul. The resulting credos are very lame (bodily/spiritual resurrection) or completely insane (hellfire in any form).

  Resurrection pure and simple remains a possibility. It all depends whether there is a God to do it. If he exists, I have no doubt he'd want to set a few things straight, and resurrection would be the way. I don't know if I should continue to believe in God. The fact that he hides himself is so weird. Yet, the very existence of life testifies in his favor. So, my bet is still that there might be some resurrection possible.
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  My Story - This is long...

  by GetOverIt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  here's my story everyone, .

  okay, my parents became witnesses when i was 3 or 4. i remember them both getting baptized together.

  i have 3 little ones and they were all 2.5 years apart at that time.

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  Thank you for sharing your interesting story, Angela.

  WT propaganda makes witnesses swallow the spiritual paradise myth, while they tend to consider the lack of love as a local anomaly. You were shrewd enough to discern the pattern. The same pattern that affects all American churches, to my opinion. I'm glad that none of them is allowed to preach its own righteousness and wreck havoc in this country.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult and here's why I think so

  by B_Deserter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when most people think of "cult" they think of the people's temple, the branch davidians, or heaven's gate.

  many also want to put jehovah's witnesses, mormons, and scientologists into this group.

  i don't agree with that because there is one main difference between true cults and high-control groups like jws:.

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  Followers of dangerous cults take moral stands they would not take if they were freely following their conscience.

  Consider for example the refusal by JWs untill 1986 of non-military service offered by many governments to consciencious objectors in replacement of military service. That position landed thousands of young witnesses in prison, until it was reversed by the WTS in 1986. As soon as mother organization changed its stand, all witnesses did too, and no one went to jail anymore (except in exceptional cases, but still with mom's sanction). All of a sudden, thousands of witnesses felt that alternative service was ethically acceptable.

  If tomorrow the organization decides that blood transfusions are acceptable, the great majority of witnesses will change their stand, as they did with vaccinations, organ transplantations, etc.

  The organization dictates the ethics of its followers. It is dangerous, and it is a cult.
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  Discussion of JW death on Fark.com

  by Paralipomenon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  not sure if this has been posted, but i didn't see the usual suspects posting there.. http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?idlink=3183138.

  interesting, over 300 comments and only a handfull favorable.

  most people are getting disgusted with witnesses.

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  Exterminator

  Thank you, Bebu. I sent you a message
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  Discussion of JW death on Fark.com

  by Paralipomenon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  not sure if this has been posted, but i didn't see the usual suspects posting there.. http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?idlink=3183138.

  interesting, over 300 comments and only a handfull favorable.

  most people are getting disgusted with witnesses.

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  Exterminator

  Comments like "What an idiot and she got what she deserved" or "One less moron in this world" are not the best I ever read.