Community College and Trade School combined are worth it. The money for University might not be worth it, but the time is. The JWs don't want the youth to have the time to think at a collegiate level, or even to think about what they want in life.
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Is College Worth It? Clearly, New Data Say...
by NewYork44M ina new set of income statistics answers those questions quite clearly: yes, college is worth it, and its not even close.
for all the struggles that many young college graduates face, a four-year degree has probably never been more valuable.. here is the article from the new york times:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/upshot/is-college-worth-it-clearly-new-data-say.html?hp.
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Why so many unbelieving spouses?
by garyneal ini had been thinking about religion and religious services in general and perhaps i am just noticing it more because of my personal involvement but it seems that the jehovahs witness religion tends to have more incidents of mixed marriages where one partner is considered the unbelieving spouse than other religions or churches.
of course, i have not been to church is a while and even when i did go to church i found that there werent as many instances of a spouse going it alone in the church without their partner.
i guess that is partly why i got discouraged in going to church as i felt like i could only bring half my family to it.. the main thing i would like to discuss, though, is why does there seem to be a higher number of mixed marriages within this religion as opposed to other religions.
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SonoftheTrinity
Men who are already married tend to put a premium on freedom, and mainline churches have a much more indulgent attitude toward dissent. I know Hebrew, Greek, and Classical Ethiopic so there isn't any bald-faced empty suit from the Old Witchtower that can teach me about scripture.
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"You should grow a beard if you're a man of God (slam)!!!"
by SonoftheTrinity inif jehovah's witnesses are taught the "truth" that people are afraid of men with beards, wouldn't sending them the vibe that clean shaven men are creepy, as indeed they are in some localities on some faces be the best favor you could do them.
imagine if every trinitarian christian told them the same thing instead of engaging in a conversation with them.
in the part of california where i live them telling me that beards are threatening to some people is like those hipsters who attend the "no pants subway ride" on the subway in the middle of winter and then say that it just felt too warm today to be wearing pants.
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SonoftheTrinity
If Jehovah's Witnesses are taught the "Truth" that people are afraid of men with beards, wouldn't sending them the vibe that clean shaven men are creepy, as indeed they are in some localities on some faces be the best favor you could do them. Imagine if every Trinitarian Christian told them the same thing instead of engaging in a conversation with them. In the part of California where I live them telling me that beards are threatening to some people is like those hipsters who attend the "No Pants Subway Ride" on the subway in the middle of winter and then say that it just felt too warm today to be wearing pants. Do they feel as irrelevant as they look? Where I come from it seems like the only American men who don't wear beards are regular beat cops and ex-cons trapped in dead-end jobs. Police and Thieves yo!
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What is orthodox Christianity?
by Justin inwe frequently contrast what jehovah's witnesses believe with orthodox christianity (or what they call "christendom").
but what does orthodox christianity look like if allowed to stand on its own, not defending itself from outside attack?
the archbishop of canterbury (rowan williams) recently gave his own description to a group of non-christians - his audience being at the islamic university in islamabad.
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SonoftheTrinity
Not to be nit-picky but 'orthodox' was spelled with a small o, rather than a big O.
orthodox Christianity, when spelled with a small o, refers to Christianity that corresponds generally to the Athanasian creed. There is little o orthodoxy, and then there are two Big O Orthodoxies. Oriental Orthodoxy and Eastern Orthodoxy....Oriental and Eastern mean the same thing right? Well, so do the the Miaphysite and Diaphysite Formulas of The Person of Christ, for the most part. The first major split in Christianity was long before the filioque clause that divided the Eastern Orthodox from the Roman Catholic. The first church to describe itself as Orthodox as opposed to Catholic was the Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt, which excommunicated Roman Catholics after the Council of Chalcedon. While there were secular pressures as well, such as Roman closures of the Egyptian public schools, the Greek language that described the two natures of Christ came across to the Egyptians as describing Christ as having a split personality, one human, the other divine. Since Arius taught that Christ was subordinate rather than co-equal right there in Egypt, causing a great deal of controversy, the Egyptian church could not affirm the Calcedonian doctrine concerning Christ. Thus the Oriental Orthodox, (Egypt, and Armenia, and thus East Africa and Asia) were the first to reject Catholicism and excommunicate the Pope of Rome (We have our own Coptic Pope). The Coptic Egyptians suffered centuries of discrimination later on at the hands of the Muslims, clinging to the doctrine of the Trinity and a divine Christ to this day. I am Oriental Orthodox, or as the Ethiopians say, Tewahedo.
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Dating a Disfellowshipped Chick
by SonoftheTrinity ini'm this orthodox christian dating a disfellowshipped jw chick.
my priest says there's hope because she's been disfellowshipped and to give it 6 months.
one minute says she wants to become a citizen, the next minute i tell her that if she does that as an american i would expect her to salute the flag and especially vote if she naturalizes, and then she talks about going back to her own country!!.
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That's a great point you brought up, better of days...After my last would be marriage I swore that I would only marry in an Orthodox Church, and I'm standing by it. I don't mind raising another man's kids, as long as there is a spiritual unity between me and the woman. Here there isn't, and I need to give her space to heal from the cult and mature as a believer before it can reach another level.
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Dating a Disfellowshipped Chick
by SonoftheTrinity ini'm this orthodox christian dating a disfellowshipped jw chick.
my priest says there's hope because she's been disfellowshipped and to give it 6 months.
one minute says she wants to become a citizen, the next minute i tell her that if she does that as an american i would expect her to salute the flag and especially vote if she naturalizes, and then she talks about going back to her own country!!.
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Expect her to vote...yeah that is arrogant...but everything else...she already had kids so she can stay regardless. I would just feel guilty bringing in one more politically apathetic immigrant into the birthright that my forefathers gave their lives for...I'm no nativist...quite the opposite...its just that I worry about the direction my country is going...
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Dating a Disfellowshipped Chick
by SonoftheTrinity ini'm this orthodox christian dating a disfellowshipped jw chick.
my priest says there's hope because she's been disfellowshipped and to give it 6 months.
one minute says she wants to become a citizen, the next minute i tell her that if she does that as an american i would expect her to salute the flag and especially vote if she naturalizes, and then she talks about going back to her own country!!.
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Thanks for the advice,
She comes from a patriarchal culture and the fact that I respect her opinions to a greater degree than her other boyfriends is probably why we're still together. I have a love of argument...or should I say debate, that runs in the family. She comes from a communal culture where debate isn't as appreciated. I'm not meaning to be controlling but shouldn't a new citizen give at least the minimum, their vote, JW or not?
I was brought up to believe that the people that didn't vote were what was wrong with this country, especially if they were naturalized and didn't vote. Being nice and respecting the laws isn't enough, getting your hands dirty by voting and marching in protests for whatever you believe in is how you keep your country free. I know people who come from other countries often have an even more cynical view of politics.
I try to engage her about these things and she won't debate me! Why don't JWs debate, without debate, there would be no civilization!!!
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The Orthodox kissing icons, is it paganism?
by greendawn indo you think the orthodox that kiss the icons are in fact worshipping idols?
their claim is that they are simply showing respect to the saint pictured in the icon and that it is by no means an act of worship.
it's only a little more than having photos of your beloved ones to be reminded of them.
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SonoftheTrinity
Of course not. Now if you have the Vigin Mary and you call her Yemonja, call the Cross Papa Legba, etc.,etc. that's when its paganism, but that's New World Catholicism.
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Dating a Disfellowshipped Chick
by SonoftheTrinity ini'm this orthodox christian dating a disfellowshipped jw chick.
my priest says there's hope because she's been disfellowshipped and to give it 6 months.
one minute says she wants to become a citizen, the next minute i tell her that if she does that as an american i would expect her to salute the flag and especially vote if she naturalizes, and then she talks about going back to her own country!!.
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OK, I'm not that patriotic...just guilty because my sister served in Iraq and I didn't even though I'm the one who should have served since I speak Arabic, and because I'm an Orthodox Christian I have a double reason to be politically active in getting America out of the Middle East because all our dealings with the Israelis and the Oil Sheiks are why they hate us and they take it out on Christians and their ancient Churches. I'm voting for Ron Paul in the Primaries in the Hopes that the Warmongers have no one to vote for in the general election.
I'm hoping that I can educate her about Church history, but like most Protestants all she wants to do is talk about a Great Apostasy of which she knows nothing about and of which she is afraid to really study critically. I converted to the Oriental Orthodox Faith, having come to the conclusion that the great apostasy happened at Chalcedon, when European Christianity went the way of heresy and conquest and Afro-Asiatic Christianity went another. I believe even more strongly in the divinity of Christ than do Catholics or Protestants, which makes me especially hostile to the neo-Arian teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses. JWs don't believe in the Trinity and they don't salute the flag, so how are they different from the Jews or the Muslims? By the way I love to make some Kitfo (Ethiopian Style Steak Tartare) as well as Raw Kibbeh (Raw beef with Wheat Bulghur), and bring some to an Apostafest with her, even though she's a vegan.
There's about a snowballs chance in hell that she's going to marry me in an Orthodox Church, and a snowballs chance in hell that I'll set foot in a Kingdom Hall, but we are in love with each other.
She talks about Jehovah's Kingdom and I say we call him "Igziabiher" which is the Ethiopian form of Jehovah, not close enough for her. I have a lot of Rasta buddies and I love Reggae so I say "Jah" when I say grace with her kids.
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Dating a Disfellowshipped Chick
by SonoftheTrinity ini'm this orthodox christian dating a disfellowshipped jw chick.
my priest says there's hope because she's been disfellowshipped and to give it 6 months.
one minute says she wants to become a citizen, the next minute i tell her that if she does that as an american i would expect her to salute the flag and especially vote if she naturalizes, and then she talks about going back to her own country!!.
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SonoftheTrinity
Hi everybody. I'm this Orthodox Christian dating a disfellowshipped JW chick. My priest says there's hope because she's been disfellowshipped and to give it 6 months. One minute says she wants to become a citizen, the next minute I tell her that if she does that as an American I would expect her to salute the flag and especially vote if she naturalizes, and then she talks about going back to her own country!!
When I first met her she said she was a Christian, and it turns out she was a JW.
Now she's going to start telling people she's an American and she is indifferent to politics. I'm in love with her but the patriot in me loathes her.
As long as I am a Christian the Trinity is my God, and as long as I am an American, the Constitution is my King. I'm vocal about these things, always have been. Can it work?