Posts by fukitol

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Dream agenda

by Half banana in

we have probably all made comparisons of the theocracies of islam and jehovahs witnesses.

they both have a dream agenda; the former has an islamic world caliphate and jws the earthly paradise.

the distinction between the two is that paradise for jws is an idea which permanently remains in the future and moves forward like the proverbial donkeys dangling carrot does, being attached to the animal, which is a most apt metaphor for the way the jw org functions.

fukitol

Eternal life in a paradise earth is the utopian goal of JW's, but not really for Muslims.

Islam has no abiding interest in this world. It absolutely believes the only real life is the one after death, the hereafter. Everything Muslims do in this life, even the achievement of a global caliphate, is ultimately for the purpose of attaining the real life after death.

There is no short-term solution to this deeply ingrained mass ignorance other than slow and gradual social and cultural education and change, which will take many generations. It took Europe nearly 2,000 years to largely unshackle the bonds of religious superstition and ignorance and it will probably take the Islamic world about the same (1600 years and counting).

A big step will be when Islam eventually tolerates higher criticism of the Koran, as Christianity did 150 years ago.

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Why did God permit Scriptures to be corrupted?

by economy in

if someone informs you that your shop caught fire, and firefighters are on the job, you will run to the spot.

however, if you had already sold that property on the previous day (which this messenger is ignorant of), you are likely to respond, saying: shop is not mine..

situation is same with god.

fukitol

I think a religion that argues why the scriptures are corrupt and inerrant is rather refreshing lol.

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'great crowd' are in the temple (naos) but not in the new covenant???

by fukitol in

in one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .

but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.

the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.

fukitol

Just watch what happens. The moment you believe in Jesus as depicted by the bible, without WT goggles, you are no longer in need of the GB's spiritual feeding program. It then becomes a simple matter of knowing the hierarchy and following the $$$.

Complete tosh.

Thousands of JW's have been taking the emblems since the Watchtower started and no 'Jesus feeling' ever stopped them from idolizing or staying loyal to the Watchtower Society.

Does partaking of the Eucharist stop a billion Catholics from venerating the Pope?

All Christians except the dubs take the emblems in some form or other, doesn't stop them idealizing and loyally obeying their religious leaders.

Partaking of the emblems would have ZERO effect on loyalty to the organisation.

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Videolink speech by a HQ member this Saturday

by Powermetal4ever in

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friends

so this saturday we are going to have some kind of videolink speech, by a james mantz from headquarters apparantly.

how very exciting... or not.

thats what my mum said anyway, and i just thought like " yeah right" i can t remember we have ever had it before, is it a new take?

fukitol

'Kingdom Support Services'? Is that the dumbest committee name ever? It's like "Geriatric Support Services".

KSS (my ASS = Assembly Support Services)

Jesus' reigning Kingdom needs the Watchtower's "support" LMAO.

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Disfellowshipping in New Zealand?

by Garrett in

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friends

good morning everyone,.

i have a friend who lives in new zealand, and because of not wanting to be identified she has asked me to post this on her behalf.

she is just wanting clarification from people who live in the local area of something she heard.

fukitol

Beautiful place the Coromandel, fantastic natural bush and beaches. Lots of interesting people living there.

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'great crowd' are in the temple (naos) but not in the new covenant???

by fukitol in

in one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .

but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.

the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.

fukitol

LOL.

OMG OMG if the rank and file are permitted to start taking the emblems they'll get "Jesus feelings" and the "Jesus bug" and it'll be fatal to the shit-scared GB. You really do talk a lot of shite sometimes DD.

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Conti Verdict - what will this mean for congregation?

by sparrowdown in

will the outcome of this case translate into any major changes for the way congregations are run?.

what do you think?.

fukitol

Might be the end of door to door work as we know it. The Society aren't stupid (although they are). They've anticipated this.

Why do you think they've started their own TV channel, created street cart witnessing, turned JW's into nothing more than junk mail deliverers?

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Return to Jehovah… No Return Address

by Marvin Shilmer in

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friends

return to jehovah... no return address .

today i read a small piece of poetic irony.

im not going to advertise from what web forum i read this, but it was so astounding i had to share it somewhere.

fukitol

Return to me or I'll kill you.

I love you, I'll kill you.

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

fukitol

...which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure ,

LMAO.

We have ourselves as our hope for the future. The potential for the human race is almost unlimited in what it can learn and achieve scientifically, medically, socially, you name it. Hey, even the Bible says God admitted there is nothing we can't achieve before he confused our languages at the tower of Babel (thanks God).

Look at all the ignorant, zombie-like Muslims still living like it is 600AD, sticking their ass up in the air 5 times a day. They are obeying thir ancient holy scripture, convinced there is no future hope without it.

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Why did God permit Scriptures to be corrupted?

by economy in

if someone informs you that your shop caught fire, and firefighters are on the job, you will run to the spot.

however, if you had already sold that property on the previous day (which this messenger is ignorant of), you are likely to respond, saying: shop is not mine..

situation is same with god.

fukitol

Is there some ban on Banarama Kumaris on this forum?

God didn't permit squat. The Bible is a frikken BOOK written by ancient, ignorant, Jewish priests and scribes who made up scary stories of a vengeful, angry deity called YHWH to keep the people in FEAR and OBEDIENCE.

Now get a life and move on.