Posts by fukitol

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I ate a REESES PEANUT BUTTER CUP

by JWdaughter in

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it had a football printed on it!

do they sell more because of it?

do they think i need a reminder of the season (its been a rough season for football in seattle)?.

fukitol

Started a thread about eating a candy bar lol (rolls eyes).

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I've begun reading the Qur'an

by nicolaou in

i've reached the point where i feel legitimate comment needs to be backed by knowledge of the source.. i'll post occasional updates on how i'm doing and what i'm learning .

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Do I need to read all the Nag HammadI texts to know they are bollox? If a few Mormons live in my neighborhood must I read their nonsense Book of Mormon to understand my neighbours better? What about the ancient Vedic Sanskrit texts, why not read them too because there's a few Hare Krishnas in your neighborhood?

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25-30 Columbia Heights headquarters up for sale

by wifibandit in

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/3/breaking-news-jehovahs-witnesses-put-brooklyn-heights-headquarters-sale.

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fukitol

They are capital rich but revenue poor. Expenses are exceeding income. Lett admitted it on JW TV and I don't believe he was lying. The literature placements and donations are massively drying up, constructions being halted, publisher growth suddenly at a historic standstill, and they are having to convert non revenue producing prime real estate into cash. They are desperately retrenching and cost cutting wherever you look.

I have no doubt they are sitting on massive piles of cash, perhaps a few billion, but the evidence is they are having to dip into that capital for operating expenses, quite apart from funding the new upstate complex construction. They are definitely in trouble from a purely revenue v expenditure side and having to backspin hard to stop the haemorrhaging.

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Am I to understand this right, sales and acquisition of halls and remodeling must now be approved by the "branch" not locally?

by LevelThePlayingField in

is this the now correct understanding?

does the borg now take over even the local kingdom halls?!

what the hell?!

fukitol

What Searcher said.

KH's are not producing enough money anymore and have become a liability, with lots of empty seats and donations drying up. The Watchtower doesn't want it's members spending most of their donations just to maintain an old Kingdom Hall; they want the money coming in to Headquarters. So about two thirds of KHs will be sold off, congregations merged or sharing one hall, and the sale proceeds invested in things that provide a decent return.

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Some thoughts on the Brooklyn real estate website

by JeffT in

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i took another look around the new website ( https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/ ).

first they have two properties listed here 124 columbia and 85 jay street.

these have to be worth a lot of money.

fukitol

It's obvious how they will fund themselves without donations or tithing.

Simply sell most kingdom halls (that produce no rent and stuff all donations) and invest the proceeds in commercial real estate or other high yield investments.

They are being very short-sighted selling all their prime Brooklyn real estate to fund extravagant GB retirement complexes upstate. Such valuable Brooklyn land and property should be retained at all cost and rented out to create high yield massive income streams.

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Eagerly anticipating the death of billions!

by stuckinarut2 in

surely someone who eagerly looks forward to the death of billions of people (including babies and children) is not emotionally healthy?.

yet, that is the key belief "happily" anticipated by witnesses.... food for thought?.

fukitol

Funny how something otherwise totally morally repugnant and horrific becomes morally justifiable when an ancient bronze-age deity is doing it.

EUTHYPHRO DILEMMA!

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-22-2015 WT Study (God Loves us?)

by blondie in

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blondies highlights from the 11-22-2015 wt study (september 15, 2015) (jehovah love us).

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

fukitol

'Jehovah' says: "I am your loving heavenly father. I will kill you."

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Why does the Watchtower leadership slap its own defenders in the face?

by slimboyfat in

take the case of rolf furuli.

i don't think there has been a specific thread on the hebrew verbs u-turn in the nwt, and how the society has responded to the work of perhaps their brightest and ablest defender in their history.

so here goes.. rolf furuli has defended jws on multiple fronts in many different settings, on issues ranging from chronology, mental health, doctrines, bible translation and the blood issue.

fukitol

Naive. The Watchtower Society and the GB and their institutionalised sychophants cannot possibly conceive of giving anyone outside of themselves credit for intellectual and spiritual achievements, even if they are fully supportive.

That would completely undermine their cardinal rule, ie, that all of the interpretational heavy lifting must be completely left to them as God's appointed channel of spiritual feeding; and any JW who studies the Bible independently, such as Furuli - no matter how impressive their academic credentials - must be ignored as fostering a dangerous mentality of independent thinking.

Same with Greg Stafford, who also rigorously academically defended many of the main Watchtower doctrines but was roundly ignored by the Society. At least Stafford finally displayed a certain measure of genuine intellectual honesty by having the balls to abandon the organisation and do a u-turn on many false JW dogmas that he formerly defended.

I would love to know what Furuli would make of the new grey NWT. To defend it would, in many respects, amount to a denial of his earlier praise of the old edition.

Academica often has nothing to do with intellectual honesty.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-22-2015 WT Study (God Loves us?)

by blondie in

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blondies highlights from the 11-22-2015 wt study (september 15, 2015) (jehovah love us).

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

I bet it won't be long given the basically zero growth reported in the latest annual report.

You can only insult and abuse the intelligence of members of your private club for so long before they walk away.