Posts by fukitol

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'great crowd' are in the temple (naos) but not in the new covenant???

by fukitol in

in one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .

but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.

the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.

fukitol

Just watch what happens. The moment you believe in Jesus as depicted by the bible, without WT goggles, you are no longer in need of the GB's spiritual feeding program. It then becomes a simple matter of knowing the hierarchy and following the $$$.

Complete tosh.

Thousands of JW's have been taking the emblems since the Watchtower started and no 'Jesus feeling' ever stopped them from idolizing or staying loyal to the Watchtower Society.

Does partaking of the Eucharist stop a billion Catholics from venerating the Pope?

All Christians except the dubs take the emblems in some form or other, doesn't stop them idealizing and loyally obeying their religious leaders.

Partaking of the emblems would have ZERO effect on loyalty to the organisation.

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Videolink speech by a HQ member this Saturday

by Powermetal4ever in

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so this saturday we are going to have some kind of videolink speech, by a james mantz from headquarters apparantly.

how very exciting... or not.

thats what my mum said anyway, and i just thought like " yeah right" i can t remember we have ever had it before, is it a new take?

fukitol

'Kingdom Support Services'? Is that the dumbest committee name ever? It's like "Geriatric Support Services".

KSS (my ASS = Assembly Support Services)

Jesus' reigning Kingdom needs the Watchtower's "support" LMAO.

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Disfellowshipping in New Zealand?

by Garrett in

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good morning everyone,.

i have a friend who lives in new zealand, and because of not wanting to be identified she has asked me to post this on her behalf.

she is just wanting clarification from people who live in the local area of something she heard.

fukitol

Beautiful place the Coromandel, fantastic natural bush and beaches. Lots of interesting people living there.

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'great crowd' are in the temple (naos) but not in the new covenant???

by fukitol in

in one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .

but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.

the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.

OMG OMG if the rank and file are permitted to start taking the emblems they'll get "Jesus feelings" and the "Jesus bug" and it'll be fatal to the shit-scared GB. You really do talk a lot of shite sometimes DD.

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Conti Verdict - what will this mean for congregation?

by sparrowdown in

will the outcome of this case translate into any major changes for the way congregations are run?.

what do you think?.

fukitol

Might be the end of door to door work as we know it. The Society aren't stupid (although they are). They've anticipated this.

Why do you think they've started their own TV channel, created street cart witnessing, turned JW's into nothing more than junk mail deliverers?

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Return to Jehovah… No Return Address

by Marvin Shilmer in

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return to jehovah... no return address .

today i read a small piece of poetic irony.

im not going to advertise from what web forum i read this, but it was so astounding i had to share it somewhere.

fukitol

Return to me or I'll kill you.

I love you, I'll kill you.

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Having Faith in the Bible

by william draper in

i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .

we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .

i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .

fukitol

...which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure ,

LMAO.

We have ourselves as our hope for the future. The potential for the human race is almost unlimited in what it can learn and achieve scientifically, medically, socially, you name it. Hey, even the Bible says God admitted there is nothing we can't achieve before he confused our languages at the tower of Babel (thanks God).

Look at all the ignorant, zombie-like Muslims still living like it is 600AD, sticking their ass up in the air 5 times a day. They are obeying thir ancient holy scripture, convinced there is no future hope without it.

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Why did God permit Scriptures to be corrupted?

by economy in

if someone informs you that your shop caught fire, and firefighters are on the job, you will run to the spot.

however, if you had already sold that property on the previous day (which this messenger is ignorant of), you are likely to respond, saying: shop is not mine..

situation is same with god.

fukitol

Is there some ban on Banarama Kumaris on this forum?

God didn't permit squat. The Bible is a frikken BOOK written by ancient, ignorant, Jewish priests and scribes who made up scary stories of a vengeful, angry deity called YHWH to keep the people in FEAR and OBEDIENCE.

Now get a life and move on.

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Jehovah Witnesses accept 2000 year old Scripture , yet reject writings of C.T.Russell the founder of the religion.of 136 years ago.?

by smiddy in

is not this ironic ?

that they can claim to believe something that was written 2000 years ago and base their life and some cases their death on it , yet disown writings of the modern day founders of their religion such as c.t.russell , the so called first president of the i.b.s.a.

, later re-named jehovah witness.. and the same fate awaits the so called second president of now re-named jehovah witnesses ,if the writings ,books ,tracts ,etc .still exist in the library you sooner or later will be quizzed as to why you want to read them , it will be discouraged , and if you persist you will be brought before the elders .. so what are they afraid of people learning ?

fukitol

They don't 'disown' their beginnings. They still believe the core teachings of Russell and Rutherford re mortal soul, no hell, no trinity, etc. Nevertheless, Russell and Rutherford would be disfellowshipped today if they were resurrected in the org and still preached what they preached back then.

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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!

by Viva la Vida in

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i'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .

opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.

the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.

fukitol

What a vile, repulsive organisation, unashamedly claiming to the end they had no duty to protect a child from a KNOWN paedophile all the way through this case.

They remain completely arrogant and unapologetic for what they've done and have put this poor woman through the mill legally. It wouldn't surprise me if their sheer hubris makes them appeal still, tormenting Candice even more. Even the Catholic Church is less arrogant on this.

Truly, "by their fruits you will recognise them". Can there be any more rotten fruitage than a religion that unrepentantly harms and causes deaths of infants and children by their morally blind and fanatical religious policies. .

I spit on the Watchtower leadership and their lawyers. Pure scum. I'm ashamed to have ever been a JW.