so where did god exist before he created the heavens?
It is common for theists to retreat into deism when faced with difficult questions.
Exactly cofty. And ultimately deism is meaningless, hollow. It's a belief in a distant, non-intervening God; one may as well believe in no God at all. (makes more sense to believe in ancient aliens frankly lol).
so where did god exist before he created the heavens?
Nicolau, if you prefer hearing the answer to your question from someone with faith you could try reading Peter Kreeft's articles. He's a well known Christian philosopher. Website here:
http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm
so where did god exist before he created the heavens?
Christians get around this by saying God exists "outside of time and space". Which means he is utterly irrelevant, may as well not exist at all lol. Which is basically why Buddhism says forget about metaphysical pontifications regarding God's existence or not. He's clearly buggered off to the other end of the Universe, if he is even in the Universe in the first place.
A totally aloof and non-intervening God is for all intents and purposes no God at all.
this week has been the week when my whole way of thinking shifted.
i still cannot believe how this can happen so fast.
over a period of seven days i went from not even imagining that i could ever not be a witness to wanting to get out of this organisation.. .
the wt study (feb study edition) for today stated "the jews had established a pattern.
of worship.
they regularly met together.
Why are JW's boasting about modelling themselves on Jews and not Christians?
The first century Christians predominantly met in HOMES. So what does the Watchtower Society do - cancels HOME book studies. They cancelled the very thing they should have retained if they want to make claim to following any first century pattern.
But since when are the JW's modelled on first century Christianity? They are a quasi Jewish cult that constantly harks back to the OT. They even took their name from the OT.
from last weeks meeting.
"we are now going to talk about experiences from trolley witnesssing" .
this is the honest to god response.
sorry for the long post but i need help.
ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.
a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.
so a friend of mine who is still in and knows i am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children?????
there is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore.
no mention of the r"rod of discipline"!
i am not sure why more people aren't talking about this?.
the march 15 study edition of the wt has some major changes!
- all unbiblical "types and antitypes" are now dropped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chfoo9nbeow.
a little about george smoot.
http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/george_smoot.
