fukitol

Joined

• started 11 topics
• posted 465 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by fukitol

• 
  31

  Excuses to miss the meeting that won't raise suspicion of a fade

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the first step to fading is to begin missing the meetings.. "if" anyone misses you, a quality excuse must be at the ready.

  this will produce empathy toward you as opposed to suspicion.. 1. car problems ( don't mention that you caused them ).

  2. stuck on the phone resolving insurance, billing, etc issues.. 3. sick ( of the meetings ).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  All you have to do is say "I'm just having a break; will be back soon"

  Works like magic.
  
• 
  7

  Why God is an untenable concept

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  around three thousand two hundred years ago a tiny tribe of desert pastoralists were called israelites for the first time.

  by assuming this name it acknowledged, as was the custom, the name of a god el..

  el was a chief sort of god and he had a fabled number of seventy sons including yahweh.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  A rather elaborate but not untrue explanation for why ancient superstitious fiction has taken such a hold as fact in the minds of billions of 'modern' human beings.

  I could summarise the Bible (real history blended with scary fables) in four simple words: priestcraft and pious fraud.

  priestcraft

  noun

  1. Priestcraft is the method that a priest uses, generally referring to a negative action.

     An example of priestcraft is a cruel method that a bad priest uses to scare the congregation.

     pious fraud

     A pious fraud is someone whose fraud is motivated by misguided religious zeal.
• 
  48

  May’s ‘study WT’ admits having taught “far-fetched” ideas

  by wheelwithinwheel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not on the front page, not in the study articles, but carefully camouflaged in the questions from readers on page 18 (watchtower march 15, 2015).

  you can bet most jws wont even read it..

  there is no apology...just the usual excuses..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  That's not the best example Steve2. Matt 24:45-47 is not just a 'simple parable' only. There are prophetic elements to Matt 24:45-47. Jesus identified a future subset group (basically, teachers substituting for him) that would be "feeding" a larger group (broader body of disciples) before the master's return. It's only the Watchtower Society's egocentric and eisegesistic application that is so obviously wrong.
  
• 
  8

  The UN Security Council is a disgrace

  by fukitol in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the syrian conflict and lack of action by the un basically proves to me the un is a failed model.. that prick bashar's army is dropping barrels bombs on schools, hospitals, killing little children etc, but russia and china with their vested geo-political interests just veto any resolution proposed by the un security council to intervene.. circa 5 years of suffering by millions of women and children living in deprivation and misery in refugee camps, with all manner of atrocities and war crimes still occurring in syria itself.

  all the meanwhile this disgusting asshole bashar and his military cronies continue in power and live in luxury.. it absolutely breaks my heart and makes me sick to my stomach.

  i don't give a toss about all the rationalisations and counter-arguments people may make defending the bashar regime.. as far as i'm concerned, the un security council is a broken and failed entity, a spineless, essentially corrupt model with grossly conflicting vested interests that are blockading fundamental moral and humane principles and obligations enshrined in it's charter.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  The Syrian conflict and lack of action by the UN basically proves to me the UN is a failed model.

  That prick Bashar's army is dropping barrels bombs on schools, hospitals, killing little children etc, but Russia and China with their vested geo-political interests just veto any resolution proposed by the UN Security Council to intervene.

  Circa 5 years of suffering by millions of women and children living in deprivation and misery in refugee camps, with all manner of atrocities and war crimes still occurring in Syria itself. All the meanwhile this disgusting asshole Bashar and his military cronies continue in power and live in luxury.
  

  It absolutely breaks my heart and makes me sick to my stomach. I don't give a toss about all the rationalisations and counter-arguments people may make defending the Bashar regime.
  

  As far as I'm concerned, the UN Security Council is a broken and failed entity, a spineless, essentially corrupt model with grossly conflicting vested interests that are blockading fundamental moral and humane principles and obligations enshrined in it's Charter. It has grossly FAILED the millions of refugees, innocent little ones and women mostly and all the civilians still trapped inside Syria suffering the hell they are enduring daily with no end in sight.

  SHAME on the UN Security Council. You are a disgusting failure!
  
• 
  12

  Why does the Almighty need a mediator?

  by economy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  god is alike to all of his children, hence cannot elevate one child above all others just because one was brought into existence before others.

  (ezekiel 18:4) someone has to be first-born which does not give him any superiority over others!

  interestingly, jesus simply dismissed the whole idea of one being placed over the others as pagan.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  And if the mediator (Jesus) is also equally God, how could there be any mediator?
  
• 
  48

  May’s ‘study WT’ admits having taught “far-fetched” ideas

  by wheelwithinwheel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not on the front page, not in the study articles, but carefully camouflaged in the questions from readers on page 18 (watchtower march 15, 2015).

  you can bet most jws wont even read it..

  there is no apology...just the usual excuses..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  "....we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so."

  Wow. This interesting admission by the Society could also be applied to any number of highly disputable and downright dubious teachings/policies of the Society where there is absolutely no "specific scriptural basis" for asserting a dogmatic viewpoint. Eg, birthdays, smoking, higher education, etc.
  
• 
  30

  "Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:

  by DarioKehl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  from that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .

  i had my doubts since childhood.

  i went along with it to please people.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  Aside from the Reasoning book, there are no 20th century JW books in the book area of the WT Online library.

  That in itself speaks volumes...

  That is remarkable. They really are embarrassed by their past publications, as they should be. All those 20th century publications, heralded as so much 'rich spiritual food' at the time, now just forgotten, not even worth putting a copy of online.
  
• 
  17

  The Watchtower's cash flow problems and financial solvency with lawsuits payouts

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think with all this change we see occurring with the watchtower corporation's to deal with things means they are in financial trouble and are seeking to consolidate their real estate holdings for easy sale if needed to stay financially solvent.. they will stop or slowly decrease the door to door work and focus on the material potential of each member young and old for what ever they can get out of them.

  this will lead to more leaving under their tyranny.

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  What finkelstein said. Presently they are absolutely flush with cash, wallowing in coin like Scrooge McDuck.

  Nevertheless donations are drying up. Publisher growth in the western world has plateaued and in many countries is going negative, with the only real numerical growth now is in the poor countries. This has resulted in a real drop in cash donations.
  

  To counteract this, the organisation has been implementing tranches of strategic rationalisation to survive for the long-haul. Firstly, they have been selling all their super valuable Manhatten real estate. Secondly, they have been slashing all the printing waste and moving to a more online marketing environment. Now they are rolling out a heavy rationalisation of their Kingdom Hall assets, in conjunction with recently demanding all congregations send them all their savings and enacting what is essentially a regular tithing payment.
  
• 
  118

  "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  It is common for theists to retreat into deism when faced with difficult questions.

  Exactly cofty. And ultimately deism is meaningless, hollow. It's a belief in a distant, non-intervening God; one may as well believe in no God at all. (makes more sense to believe in ancient aliens frankly lol).
• 
  118

  "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  fukitol

  Nicolau, if you prefer hearing the answer to your question from someone with faith you could try reading Peter Kreeft's articles. He's a well known Christian philosopher. Website here:
  

  http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm