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  7th Day Adventist growth/decline stats similar to JWs

  by fukitol in

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  2. friends

  the sda's are also getting most of their growth in africa and latin america but plateauing or declining in europe and parts of the western world.. what's also interesting is the sda leadership fronts up and attempts to explain why there is decline in some areas of the world (albeit somewhat disingenously), eg, on the link below from 2014. but the watchtower leaders have never tried to give any explanation for why membership is dramatically falling away in the western world.

  increasingly worried jws are instead turning to other sources of information to try and understand why the 'true religion' is contracting.. http://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2013-10-13/membership-nears-18-million-secretary-highlights-regions-of-growth-decline/.

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  fukitol

  The SDA's are also getting most of their growth in Africa and Latin America but plateauing or declining in Europe and parts of the western world.

  What's also interesting is the SDA leadership fronts up and attempts to explain why there is decline in some areas of the world (albeit somewhat disingenously), eg, on the link below from 2014. But the Watchtower leaders have never tried to give any explanation for why membership is dramatically falling away in the western world. Increasingly worried JWs are instead turning to other sources of information to try and understand why the 'true religion' is contracting.

  http://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2013-10-13/membership-nears-18-million-secretary-highlights-regions-of-growth-decline/
  
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  upskirt voyeur a JW

  by Luo bou to in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  report was in nz news paper recently this guy had a camera attached to his witnessing bag so he could film up girls skirts hyperthetical can you imagine before he was caught this bro being commended for his zeal in the ministry and used as a role model for reporting a lot of hours which is considered by the elders a measure of ones spirituality .

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  fukitol

  He was actually an elder.
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  1917 - What REALLY happened?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  regarding what happened post russell in 1917, if you ask a jw, they'll say it was the fault of the ousted board members who were 'self willed'.

  if you ask an ex-jw, they'll say it was a 'power grab' by rutherford.

  the latest yearbook elaborates on the situation:.

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  fukitol

  Great post krismalone, thanks.
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  Governing Body Discontinues the New World Translation as 'OLD Light'???

  by Ruby 1976 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just saw this posted on a facebook group.

  anyone know if there is any truth to this?.

  http://www.exjehovahswitness.com/gb-discontinues-new-world-translation-as-old-light.html.

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  fukitol

  It's a piss-take.
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  The spirit that guides JW org

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we can draw a parallel: the democrats lost the us presidential election, and they started blaming everyone else (including foreign powers) except themselves.

  they forgot the reason for their own victory before—it was the direct and proportionate result of the poor performance of the then ruling party.

  and now after 8 years of mess, people voted for a change.

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  fukitol

  Umm..OK.

  The fundamental error of the organization, like all religious organizations, is that they take their given 'holy book' literally.
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  Hello

  by midnight in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi i am posting for the first time although i've been looking for a few years , i was born into a witness family left when i was 12 with my parents went back at 22 pioneered became ms started to have major doubts around 2002 when there was a lot of talk about blood fractions etc have been hit and miss since i'm extremely mentally confused as to wether or not this really is jehovah's earthly organisation , i find life hard facing up to mortality etc not having the new system hope , what nailed your decision to leave ?

  how did you cope with world problems on news etc ?

  how did you fill the void ?

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  fukitol

  Congratulations on having awakened from your lifelong brainwashing since birth and welcome to reality and the human race.

  You are strong and courageous to be where you are right now in your journey away from religious brainwashing and indoctrination.

  Be kind to yourself and stay grounded in reality.
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  How do you categorise the Society - Cult or High control religion

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have often seen many categorise the organisation in different ways.

  some say cult, some say high control religion.

  cult or high control religion?.

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  Thread number 3679 on whether JWs are a cult.

  Cults are by definition high control.
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  Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.

  the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.

  and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.

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  Lol at Cofty, the forums resident militant atheist lurking silently ready to pounce on any utterance that even smacks of the slightest espousal of any position on 'God' that isn't totally atheist.
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  You know it's the Truth, because it attracts crazy people.

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wish i was kidding, but i have heard this idea suggested lately as a defense of the wts.

  this is god's organization, even though it attracts crazy people, and because it attracts crazy people.

  "unlettered and ordinary," et cetera.. i don't get it.

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  fukitol

  The Society basically admits it attracts nutters since it puts the recent large increases in partakers down to mentally and emotionally unbalanced persons taking the emblems.
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  2017 Yearbook released

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on reddit:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

  overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).

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  fukitol

  This explains the theme of this year's convention "Do not give up!", straight after the theme last year of remaining loyal.

  Clearly, increasing numbers are giving up. They are in decline in the developed world and the donations are drying up. They have been for some time and it is only getting worse.

  And the delusional Governing body don't know what the heck to do about it except to slash costs, keep begging and guilt-tripping and scare-mongering, and hoping that Armageddon will come soon to bail them out.