Some Witnesses might ignore their own teachings and claim that God will decide to save these kids. In that case every Witness will have to take care of about 100 traumatised orphans. It doesn't make any sense.
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700 million babies to be slaughtered
by hamsterbait inthe world population increases by 70 million each year.. this means that on the day armageddon strikes, at least 700 000 000 babies under the age of 10 wil be slaughtered.. 192 000 of these will be less than 24 hours old, many of them killed with their head barely hanging out of their mothers vagina.. how can the witlesses love a god that would do this - even long for it??.
it strikes me that for the witlesses morality is entirely relative.. i well remember the kingdumb song: "some paint god cruel" (wt does!!!).
hb.
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2009 year text
by JimmyPage inthe wtbts is trying to decide on a year text for 2009. here are the scriptures they are trying to choose from: ecc.
12:12: "to the making of many books there is no end and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh.
" luke 18:11: "o god i thank you that i am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.
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Jeremiah 5:31 "The prophets themselves actually prophesy in falsehood; and as for the priests, they go subduing according to their powers. And my own people have loved it that way; and what will you men do in the finale of it?"
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How many will bother going to the bookstudy between now and January?
by DT inif i were still in, i would find it hard to be excited about going to the book study now that i know it is doomed.
the revelation book has already been hashed to death.
the silly five finger death grip illustration doesn't apply any more.
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bttt
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Lately, The SIGHT of JWs Gets Me Irritated!!!!!
by minimus inanyone care to psychoanalyze me??
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It sounds like a sane reaction to me. At least it seems to be the typical reaction.
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The preaching work has been accomplished! The Watchtower Society is now a..
by DT inconstruction company!.
please pardon the wild speculation.
i'm just thinking about the money.
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construction company!
Please pardon the wild speculation. I'm just thinking about the money. After all, that is what the governing body and legal department seem mostly concerned about. The Watchtower Society isn't doing very well as a publishing company. They are making big cutbacks. They can try to explain this away as simplification, but if it was profitable, they would be expanding their printing operations.
However, Jehovah's Witnesses also do a lot of construction with free labor. This is quite a racket. Maybe that is where their future lies. Think of the money they are already making. They will be selling a lot of buildings in New York that were built or improved with free labor. They will make millions. Think of all the brothers that are forsaking the ministry to help with endless kingdom hall projects, many of them unnecessary. This is a huge money maker for them. They receive the building funds as donations. They loan it back and charge interest and then still get ownership when the loans are paid off. It doesn't matter that growth is slow, they just keep building anyways. They make much more money
from someone swinging a hammer than they do from someone knocking on doors.Think of the disaster relief work they do. The labor is free. They probably get some donated building materials. Then they collect the insurance check. I have even heard they get additional funding from "worldly" organisations for their efforts. We are looking at huge profits. They even get a chance to appear to be charity.
They are making huge changes and it appears that more changes are on the way. Could they be trying to improve their business model?
Please pardon the even wilder speculation. Why are they hinting that they fulfilled Matthew 24:14 while embracing a generation teaching that can indefinitely postpone Armageddon? What are they up to? Is it possible that they could try to distance themselves form the preaching work? They could say something like the preaching work was so successful that God decided to postpone destruction. They could decide to declare that Satan has been proved wrong. He has been invisibly abyssed and we have begun a new era of human history.
They could talk about Jonah's disappointment when Nineveh wasn't destroyed or Abraham's pleading with God to spare Sodom and Gomorrah if even a few righteous men could be found in it. They could really make the Witnesses feel guilty for looking forward to the destruction of 99.9% of humanity! They could maintain much of their strictness while appearing more mainstream. They could use their free labor resources for much more profitable projects. They could employ more effective methods of recruitment and still allow older or weaker members to engage in some kind of revised teaching work, perhaps something that is more focused on benefiting people, rather than shoving doctrines down their throats. If they had enough ambition, they could change their name again and become the major new religion of the 21st century.
OK, I know there are problems with this scenario. Feel free to criticise it if you want to. I don't even know if the governing body has the imagination or courage to make major changes like that. However, I'm sure that they are desperate and are well aware of the challenges they are facing, especially their current financial situation. They also know they have a huge source of free labor. I think they would have to be crazy to not think of ways to use this in a more profitable way.
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How many will bother going to the bookstudy between now and January?
by DT inif i were still in, i would find it hard to be excited about going to the book study now that i know it is doomed.
the revelation book has already been hashed to death.
the silly five finger death grip illustration doesn't apply any more.
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If I were still in, I would find it hard to be excited about going to the book study now that I know it is doomed. The Revelation book has already been hashed to death. The silly five finger death grip illustration doesn't apply any more. It's obvious that the book study won't be a provision to help the Witnesses through the great tribulation. It's likely that the other Witnesses will also lose their enthusiasm for the bookstudy. Why bother? The governing body is admitting that the private home bookstudies aren't needed. It appears that they are just postponing it's demise for mundane organisational reasons and to give people time to emotionally adjust. I would probably prefer to start adjusting to this change now by not going or by going less frequently. What do you think?
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If you were the deity, would you demand to be showered with gutted animals?
by easyreader1970 ini have always been a bit confused by this.
i can understand why a deity would want and demand respect.
i can similarly understand why a deity would want and demand loyalty.
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I'm sure that being a deity can be a real emotional challenge. It must be hard to face eternity without friends who are equals. Perhaps watching lesser creatures engage in bizarre rituals of worship can provide some temporary amusement. He seems to have grown tired of animal sacrifice by now. I'm guessing that he now finds it entertaining to watch people try to hold on to their religious beliefs despite a large quantity of conflicting evidence.
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The latest NOO LIGHT is really OLD LIGHT
by Honesty infebruary 15, 1927 watchtower magazine.
page 62. .
question: in matthew 24:34 jesus said: "verily i. say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all.
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This is a good time to remind us of this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that there is a big difference between the current understanding and the 1927 understanding. Doesn't the current understanding view the generation as the anointed since 1914? I think the 1927 explanation that it is the anointed since the first century makes much more sense. If the new generation doesn't have any time constraints, why say there were two generations (first century and since 1914) when one would suffice? It appears that they are still clumsily including their 1914 doctrine, but making it possible to downplay that date and eventually abandon it.
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agendas of paradise
by winnower inwhat has been taught as armageddon is actually the great tribulation.
the agenda for a "man-made" paradise will come about during this time.
of course, the jws will, as always, be told that it is being "divinely directed" and believe that without question.
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Is it really so difficult to see that the Society and the united nations have the same agenda?
You have to wonder why the Watchtower Society became an NGO and wrote favorable articles about the UN. It seems likely that they may have some similar goals.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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Is that to think that the critical information won't follow them to whatever name they use? They're doomed, as far as trying to remain "God's Earthly Organization" goes, no matter what name they use.
The critical information would follow them, but it would take time. They could probably dominate the top ten of Google search results with positive references. The critical information would still be around, but the casual searcher would be much less likely to find it. It would probably be better for them if they could arrange for a small sect to break away and retain the name Jehovah's Witnesses. That small group could then carry the negative publicity from years worth of apostate sites. The newly named group could then start a new information race with apostates and probably easily outpace them if they did things intelligently.