Posts by DT

- this was during the weekly bible reading part... lol (the society actually says that about when jesus told the disciples that some of them would see him coming in his kingdom before they died...).

DT

Quoting the WTS is the best way to embarrass them.

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Whatever Happened with the Big Shake-up!

by oneairhead in

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there was a thread some weeks ago talking about a big shake-up at mama's house(bethell), has anyone heard anything.

i have to admit it got my hopes up.. one.

Who knows? Even if the rumors are true, it could be years before something drastic happens. On the other hand, there have been a lot of changes lately. It's possible that this could be a response to fear or internal pressure.

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Crusaders Google Bomb Scientology

by DT in

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http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/01/30/confirmed-crusaders-google-bomb-scientology.

i think this is an interesting article.

it doesn't get too involved with the moral aspects of this, but it talks about the effects of their campaign.

DT

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/01/30/confirmed-crusaders-google-bomb-scientology

I think this is an interesting article. It doesn't get too involved with the moral aspects of this, but it talks about the effects of their campaign. By some measures, it has been extremely effective. I'm not condoning or suggesting some of their tactics. Instead, I'm suggesting that we study and learn from this. Scientology critics are well aware that the Internet is a powerful tool for fighting the power of cults. We know that too, but have used this information differently. (There may be both advantages and disadvantages to this.)

It's just something to think about. There are opportunities to make our information more available on the Internet, without doing anything questionable. There are things that can be done by individuals or as a group. I have a small private campaign to increase the Google rankings of my favorite sites (including this one) by blogging and linking to them. I also try to write articles that do well in searches for keywords that are poorly represented by critical sites of JWs. I think it all makes a difference. The Internet gives us a chance to vote for the information we think is most accurate and most beneficial.

Some are more comfortable concentrating on this site. That's great. This site is a proven winner and a great help to new ones. It often comes down to our personality when we decide what we want to do, if anything. I actually envy those who don't feel a need to do anything. I hope to get to that point in the future. In the meantime, I find some activities to be therapeutic.

I also wanted to add the opinion that I think Google bombing the WTS websites is a terrible idea. I would much rather see people avoid linking to them at all. (Or only provide a url or a no follow link that doesn't improve the sites ranking. I'm pretty sure that the links on this site are no follow to discourage spammers. Please let me know if I am mistaken) I've noticed that the position of the WTS sites in searches is somewhat volatile. This makes them vulnerable to our promotion of critical sites. If the WTS sites drop down in the search results, it can drastically reduce the amount of traffic they get.

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Where do I stand?

by 2112 in

i have been out for about14 years, and i honestly don't know where i stand.

i was neve told i was df'ed, and i never da'ed.

i remember my wife told mt 'they read your letter tonight.

DT

I don't really know where I stand either. I sent a letter to DA myself, but requested confirmation. I never received it. I sent another letter by certified mail and still haven't heard anything. If my third letter doesn't get a response, I might tell my family that they can apparently talk to me.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: Disassociation and Lawsuits, I have a question!!

by isnrblog in

many of you who have or had been jehovahs witnesses for sometime will remember that back before say 1980 or so, the congregation could disassociate an unbaptized person and that person was treated as disfellowshipped.

that happened a lot, pre 1980.. .

for example, as a teenager in the 60s, several of the teenagers in my cong were disassociated and treated as disfellowshipped .

DT

when they announced he was back, a few people stared to applaud, but the elder making the announcement got a stern look on his face and shook his head no at the audience!

LOL They can't risk treating him like the prodigal son.

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Feb. 1 mass calling campaign. Will you call?

by Shawn10538 in

i'm not sure if it was mentiopned.

but i think that we are talking about not just one call from each person, but we are talking about spending a good length of time calling repeatedly.

othrwise it just won't have much of an impact.

DT

Just a few thoughts. I'm just speaking for myself. When I call, I'm going to try to be very respectful. My goal is just to see if they will admit to being a NGO. If they deny it, I won't argue. I might say something like, "Thank you. It's hard to believe that Jehovah's Witnesses would actually join the UN." Then if they know they are lying or find out later, they can deal with their conscience as they wish. I'm sure that they get hundreds of crazy calls every day. I don't think it will do any harm if they start to get more calls from serious people with serious questions. I'm sure most people only build up the courage to call when they are really upset. This is a chance to call when we are more calm. Some may be more aggressive. I think that's OK. It's unlikely that we will tie up their phone lines or disturb their operations, but I would be happy to see this happen if it is caused by thoughtful callers.

I don't view this as a big battle, but as a small skirmish that will probe the enemy's strengths and weaknesses. I hope we will learn from this and adapt. Some of the objections may have more weight than I currently realise. I don't think this means we shouldn't try. A lot of people think this is a bad idea. Some of these are very active on this discussion board. That's fine. I think your efforts are valuable here and I don't think you should do something you don't want to do or think is counterproductive. I also know there are a lot of people who want to do something that's more direct and would like the plan to have some organisation and strength of numbers. This campaign has a suggested time and theme and both are optional. You can participate without any further planning or debate on it's efficiency. I appreciate the feedback, even if it's negative. I will try hard to avoid doing things in a way that is counter productive and I encourage others to do the same.

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What is watchtower's official position on ..

by shuriken in

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chess?

do they really see it as a kind of military training.

someone said somewhere (can't remember where) that it is viewed like martial arts mind conditioning.

DT

Chess has obvious connections to war, but so does the watchtower. It even looks like a rook in chess.

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WT info links from my blogs, You Like?

by rekless in

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http://thedreampushers.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html

DT

I like. They're useful links. I'm a big believer in linking from blogs because it helps those sites to to do better in search engines. I really like your blog, I haven't read it all yet but I'm working on it. I have linked to you here http://jehovahswitnessesvideo.blogspot.com/ and from some other blogs.