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  Bring_the_Light: I surrender

  by PraiseJehovee in

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  i need this forum.

  i have time invested in my name "bring_the_light".

  i have pm'd simon apologizing, agreeing to obey all rules, and requesting to have my account turned back on.

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  I'm glad to hear of the decision to bring him back.
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  Why I will NEVER be an elder again

  by stillajwexelder in

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  so the po confirmed what many on this board already know.

  at latest round of co to elders meeting, the co quoted from the society outline.

  any elder or ms who encourages college for his kids or others or who allows his children to go to college will no longer qualify.. he then asked if i was going to take the cos encouragement and reach out again to be an elder and get my hours on the ministry up.. i replied "i will never be an elder again - i strongly approve of further education and college and have been through college myself.

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  BreakingAway, to be fair, I called names too. Specifically, I used the words moron, idiot, and raving lunacy, which would imply he was a raving lunatic. These are exagerations on my part. -dp

  Okay then, play nice you two !
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  Why I will NEVER be an elder again

  by stillajwexelder in

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  so the po confirmed what many on this board already know.

  at latest round of co to elders meeting, the co quoted from the society outline.

  any elder or ms who encourages college for his kids or others or who allows his children to go to college will no longer qualify.. he then asked if i was going to take the cos encouragement and reach out again to be an elder and get my hours on the ministry up.. i replied "i will never be an elder again - i strongly approve of further education and college and have been through college myself.

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  Dannyboy does not read what is posted. Dannyboy makes no sense. Dannyboy likes calling people names while he makes no sense

  Hmmmm..... since his name is daniel-p, it seems the one doing the name calling is you.I understand, or at least I think I have an idea, of your point Vinny.You want to play the "I'm really objective" card.Fine.But the Society's stance on this issue is not as benign as you would make it out to be and you often seem far more skeptical of those here than of a CULT that chews people up and spits them out; so how about pulling back on the condescending aggressiveness and stop beating people about the head and shoulders that don't agree with you.It's wearing thin.
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  JWs Are Like Others: They Take The Good With The Bad

  by minimus in

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  the more i dwell on people, in general, the more i realize that jws act pretty much the same as others.. if someone is in a marriage, they accept the good and the bad and simply accept the differences.. some people have jobs that they don't love but it's the lesser of 2 evils to be employed, so they stay at the same place for decades.. in politics, you might not be crazy over the person in the party that you prefer but you stick with the candidate for better or worse.. many jws have certain things they don't like about their religion but stay in their congregations because "where else would they go?

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  perhaps jehovah's witnesses are no different than the average person.....what do you say?.

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  If one means they're pretty much like others except for the fact that they:Shun others, including their own family members-even though it may cause them to become suicidal, let their children die because of not taking blood,disfellowship those for not agreeing with their religious leaders, don't celebrate holidays, birthdays,etc.,or honor they're parents because it's "pagan",allow child molesters in the cong. without informing anyone but will publicly mark someone for such "questionable" behavior as telling others they watch rated R movies or listening to the wrong music,removing men from postion because their children decide to get an education and even talk about it,don't plan for retirement because the end has been "just around the corner" for over 100 years,commend people for selling their businesses and homes to spend more time knocking on doors,ban beards,disfellowship a woman for wearing a pantsuit in "service",disfellowship a married couple for what they privately do in their bedroom,tell people what to think,wear,and act,claim that they're God's sole channel on earth and that everyone who isn't a JW will die, and and a plethora of other things which they fully support and give power to.Then, yes, they're pretty much like everyone else.
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  Tossed out of the District Convention! What did I do wrong? I exist!!

  by Terry in

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  this is a stupid story if it is a story at all..... quentin and i decided we'd go to the district convention since it is right here in our home town.. why?.

  oh, curiousity.

  a desire to find my old prison buddies.

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  Also to be a bit more objective, they don’t really know why you are there, they don’t know if you are going to make a scene and upset the people that are there to umm worship, so they did the most logical thing they could, they asked you to leave so they could avoid other people who in all honesty did have a right to be there from being upset or witnessing something unpleasant.

  I believe he said "Hi".Which I admit is pretty threatening , but still, you'd think such a loving and tolerant organization would be willing to give the benefit of the doubt.As for their "logical" preemptive strike...why not just disfellowship all Witnesses before they do something wrong.That way no one will be threatened.Kind of "Minority Report" Witness style.Additionally,he also had the "right" to be there.And just who was it in this scene that made a decision to upset someone or become unpleasant ? I'm not trying to be hard on you here but let's not make irrational excuses for the heavy-handed tactics of the org.
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  spinning lady on the escalator....utube....now THAT....

  by oompa in

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  is my kind of gal!

  !......just saw her on foxnews.....what a clip..............oompa.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyov8kq6vo.

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  You kids will poke an eye out doing that !
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  Long Intro From A Long Timer

  by hillary_step in

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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  Just a note to all onlookers:Anyone who touches my cuddly club or fluff will be pulling back a bloody stump.Thank you and have a good day.
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  I cant afford to eat anymore : Grocery Store Horror stories :)

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  first... i am in no immediate danger of starving damn groceries are getting expensive .

  as an example... i love breyer's all natural ice cream... .

  first...the story of the incredible shrinking ice cream box.... for years and year the box was one half gallon (us)...2 full quarts...then somewhere a couple years back, it shrunk to 1.75 quarts...but in the same size box..... today, i was at the grocery, and seen the stuff was on sale..... hmmmmm...something fishy.... yep... it is now 1.5 quarts.... and i carefully compared the 1.75 box in my freezer with my new 1.5 box.

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  Try Ramen noodle ice cream, it's awesome ! Hey, I just might be onto something here...
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  Tossed out of the District Convention! What did I do wrong? I exist!!

  by Terry in

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  this is a stupid story if it is a story at all..... quentin and i decided we'd go to the district convention since it is right here in our home town.. why?.

  oh, curiousity.

  a desire to find my old prison buddies.

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  @BreakingAway:
  
  I agree completely, but the prejudices of the typical cake-eater would just revert to visions of braindead or brainwashed automatons so I felt like I needed to voice some righteous indignations. In my case, and maybe your's, soldiers are what happens when a man/woman decides they DON'T want to be like a witless. :oP
  
  I had a Vietnam Vet (now PO) come up to me kinda snottyish "so a bit disillusioned with the military" I couldn't stop myself from responding "well I was never really 'illusioned' in the first place". Hehe, our eyes met and he knew I wasn't only talking about the military. Ahh. I have a lot of respect for a man who's been through what he was wanting to embrace passivism/religion, but that doesn't give him permission to disrespect me or anyone else. In some cases experience and perspective does not equal wisdom. No Mr. RamboPO I do not subjugate my opinions, thinking or conscience to your holier than god self.
  
  War is the worst thing there is. That is very easy to agree about. What to do about it is much more difficult.
  
  Bring_the_Light

  Which is why you're right about the Third Reich comparison.It is an extreme form of conditioning and misplaced devotion.To manipulate one into a particular way of thinking,to bring into a desired altered state of mind.In contrast,most soldiers embrace individualism while carrying out the duty for which they've been trained and assigned.Combat training endeavors to get a person ready for just that, combat.Which involves a certain amount of conditioning and obviously not all conditioning is bad.However,people of all walks of life and situtations are subject to manipulation.A person could be conditioned to carry out something which they feel is right, such as Muslim extremists suicide bombers. Of course, that trick only works once, so they need a continual supply of "properly motivated" people and therein lies a scary similarity with the bOrg.JW's have a extremely low retention rate and a continual supply of indoctrinated ones is needed, and as we know, indvidualism and free thought is completely discouraged, even demonized. When one completely gives themselves to a cause, specifically one with nefarious ends under the guise of "good", then terrible things can happen.Conditioning also becomes more solidified when one is under threat of punishment for not furthering "the cause".So naturally, this translates to fear.And abhorrence of, and rude acts toward, an "apostate", can also largely be the result of one projecting their fears onto another, a fear that they themselves might be viewed as an aposate if they don't show outward rejection.Maybe even fear that they themselves could become what they currently detest.I personally do have a concern that this org could turn into a massive Jonestown or Heaven's Gate type of situation.I'm sure some find that rather farfetched; but it all had to start somewhere,those people didn't just wake up with that mindset one day. Hopefully, I didn't go off on too much of a tangent here...
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  I cant afford to eat anymore : Grocery Store Horror stories :)

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  first... i am in no immediate danger of starving damn groceries are getting expensive .

  as an example... i love breyer's all natural ice cream... .

  first...the story of the incredible shrinking ice cream box.... for years and year the box was one half gallon (us)...2 full quarts...then somewhere a couple years back, it shrunk to 1.75 quarts...but in the same size box..... today, i was at the grocery, and seen the stuff was on sale..... hmmmmm...something fishy.... yep... it is now 1.5 quarts.... and i carefully compared the 1.75 box in my freezer with my new 1.5 box.

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  It seems a lot of companies are jumping on the "raise the price" bandwagon.Of course, it's not like they didn't do that before, and I suppose they're opportunistic by nature, but now they feel they've got a legitimate excuse to raise prices.After all, "everybody's doing it".Some really will have increased expenses to deal with, so they'll pass these on to the consumer, but then they tack a bit more on "just because they can."Sales are always being run somewhere, so I look for those when I can.

  What's interesting during times like these, is that some companies also decide to be opportunistic by producing a less expensive, but not necessarily "cheaper", or lower quality , product.It's also a very good time for entrepreneurs to make their move and establish a product at a competitive rate and this in turn can lead to the dropping of prices in a mainsteam market.As they say "Necessity is the mother of invention." And the same goes for Innovation.