Gringa

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  Would YOU Like To Continue Having The Watchtower Summary???

  by minimus in

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  as you know, blondie took a hiatus due to illness and she is still not at 100%.

  watchtower scans are needed now since they are not easily available.. would anyone be interested in helping here?.

  is the watchtower summary, as blondie has developed it, still of interest here??

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  Where are these summaries posted?
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  Wanted to say hi

  by digderidoo in

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  i used to visit this site on many occasions a few years ago.

  in fact i was just lookin at some old posts which were dated back to 2001. doesn't time fly?.

  this site really was a tool to help me comin to terms with myself as an individual, but at the same time there were many people who were angry with the wbts which in turn made myself angry with certain elements of the organisation and the way i was brought up.. i have not gone back to any meetings since i last visited although just lately i have considered the spiritual aspect to life and have been waying up the pros and cons of attending a meeting.

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  There are a million places to get close to G-d... like a mountain top, an ocean shore, a small child....you don't need the JWs to do that. I, for you, do not believe that G-d resides in the KH. I believe that the KH is everything in direct opposition to G-d.

  My G-d is truly a loving G-d and would never hang the fear of everlasting death over ANYONE'S head. My G-d loves you no matter what you believe, as he created all of us - either through creation or evolution, why would he punish us for being his creation? Frankly, that would be a cruel joke. The fear that the JWs use is merely mind control and I hope you can find your spirtual side in places far more spiritual that the KH.

  Sorry to be so outspoken but I sense you are here to hear what you already know in your heart or why would you be reaching out at this time in your life?

  For goodness sake, THINK man! THINK!!!!

  Gringa
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  Thanks for all the suggestions - My brothers SP account was suspended in May in Colorado and I live in Mexico. I have his hard drive but can't do the ISP search route - but thank you for thinking, thinking....
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  WOW - this forum moves fast... a lot of posts, a lot of folks....ok, I really gotta go, will check in tomorrow, for sure - Thanks everyone!!!!!
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  Hey Charles!! Yeah, I am not afraid, either - haven't been for decades. Once you get away, they have no power. It is sad to watch people be so afraid - afraid of what? I am afraid of nothng....I faced sure death in 1975 at Jehovah's hands as a rebellous teenager - I spit in his face (so to speak) I was ready to die, I didn't care - LOL - once you face THAT, nothing else seems so bad. AND I am NOT afraid to die - I already made that choice, A LONG TIME AGO....... When I get time tomorrow, I will work on my profile and avatar........
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  Con't know how to quote yet - sorry - what I mean by too many years? Too many years since the abuse - I assumed that was what you where referring to...... certainly not for the murder but all leads lead to no where - I am not stopping my search, though - my mom says Jehovah will take care of it shortly
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  It would be cool to bust him - it will never happen, too many years and with Lee dead - where is the evidence? Finding his killer would be cooler still but all leads lead to a dead-end. We may never know but as my mom says, Jehovah will take care of it, we don't have to......
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  Don;t think that is him (lee elder) ...... He posted as toostonedtotype at a lot of places, I think he might have had more discretion than to do that here ( we learn that at an early age) - I will try a number of his known nicks on the search feature tomorrow - tinytown, tinytownlee. lbcolorado, as some he had used elsewhere - I'll keep you all posted. I keep sneaking in here and reading while guests are in the LR - hahahaha! (learned about sneaking around, too hehehe)
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  Hey everyone!

  Thanks for the warm welcome! I am happy to have found you all. We have a lot in common!

  I haven't started the search here yet - I have searched his computer - I was able to "hack" his hotmail and aol accounts and found nothing of use there. He was very active in the medical mj purpose and kept NOTHING of interest on his computer and deleted all emails after he read them. He had a lot of run-ins with the powers that be.

  I am more interested in an user name so I can just search all posts by him. I will check out Lee Elder - he had no children - but it is possibly him. I have a number of possibilities to try as far as a user name which I plan on doing tomorrow when I have more time. It is football for me today -

  So many stories - what a life we had/are having - as my oldest brother said once, we had the most disfunctional family on earth. I would have liked to debate him on that as I think there were/are worse, but what does it matter? I think I have my head on pretty frickin' straight. I may drink too much, but hey, I aint hurtin' no body........ so, it really doesn't matter!!!

  Take care, and love to all from south of the US border, Puerto Vallarta, Mexico....

  adios and hasta manana!

  Love,

  Gringa
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  Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

  by Gringa in

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  i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

  i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

  got out fairly young.

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  Gringa

  I have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually I am finding it hard to pull myself away. I stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here I am.

  3rd generation ex-JW here. Got out fairly young. What a wild ride it has been these past 50 years of my life. My younger brother, also an ex, told me about this site a couple of years ago but I wasn't interested. I try to put all things JW behind me. Out of sight, out of mind. But, not him. Anyway, he past away this past May, murdered in his own home, just a couple of days shy of one month since our oldest brother died after a 5 year cancer battle.

  Going through his home, after his death, I stumbled upon writings of his, some he had shared with me over the years and some not. It's hard to go through someone else's private things, felt like such an intrusion.... but, I digress. I found a tale of child molestation that had occurred to him at the age of say 5-10 years old. He left no clues as to who it was because he wasn't sure himself. It happened on an overnight camping trip that my mom had allowed him to go on with some "relatives" , from his memories. But since all JWs are brothers and sisters, it may have created some confusion in his young mind. The people he discribed are not immediate family. Since we were so sheltered, I KNOW FOR A FACT that it HAD to have been a JW family that took him, and the father molested him. This happened about 30-35 years ago. I have questioned my elderly mother extensively and she can not remember the trip she allowed him to go on. And for her protection, I have not shared with her the reasons for my asking.

  So, mark this down as one more destroyed life. Mark this down as one more person so guilt ridden and confused over all things in his life that, while he was one of the finest people I have ever met, lived his short life with the pain of the religion, the pain of molestation, the pain of guilt acted out through dangerous mind altering chemicals, dangerous life style choices, confusion in his sexuality and a lot of bitterness which ultimately lead to his death by unknown person(s).

  I am not sure how to search the site yet as I just logged on but I am hoping to search for his posts here to gain more insight into his life. We were close, but apparently not close enough for him to share this part of this life with me. I am not sure of his alias here - I will try and guess - but if anyone remembers him, please share with me so I can go one with my journey of finding out about his pain and life.

  Some things he was obessed with that may lead some of you to remember him:

  Our brother with cancer - 5 years fighting colon cancer

  Blood transfusions.

  He was asked to give a kidney to our brother - which was beyond belief to him considering the stance on transfusions, his concern of risking his own life for someone that may die in an operation of this magnitude performed without blood.

  His name is Lee and was from Colorado.

  Thanks for any help and I have a feeling I may stick around a while. I have already gained a lot of insight into myself, reading here. And maybe some things I have learned that I can share to help others.

  Gringa (no spell check here!!!!? The horrors!)